[J-Rock]

With an eye on the cameras....I've seen it all now

'We've never argued before...you have another side to you....I'm sweet me, like you' (Lisa to Marcus).

Bea also now lovey with Marcus.

All lovey, lovey, ONE DAY before he may be leaving JUST TO GET (AND LET ME REPEAT) JUST TO GET FREDDIE OUT

I'm afraid, as much as I like em both, that it is now imperative Marcus falls on his sword and Freddie stays to beat the Dark Side....

[NolasGirl]

I completely agree. We cannot let the bullies win.

That ****ing ***** LISA!! She's been at this all along.

[marcfreddielegends]

lol i,ve watched that bit spilt me bloody coffe
cheeky cow she,s got bea delusional behaviour

[tommo6thbeatle]

Does Marcus kno her gameplan?

[discotheque]

Lisa - Creeeeeeepy !

[Faded]

It's another one of Lisa's attempts to be smart, by spending time with Marcus the day before eviction so that in the event that Marcus doesn't get evicted she wont be on bad terms with him.

[J-Rock]

Faded - yeh, I think it's also about that aswell

But their main quest - their main war - is to get rid of Freddie....he HAS to be saved and see it to the end (winner or not) to beat the art of bullying and social isolation...then BB can R.I.P.

[jet]

Lisa has never been on really bad terms with Marcus. They didn't like each other much, true, but they haven't had any big blow ups or anything.
When Marcus was in a bad way about Noirin, Lisa was the one he went to for sympathy and comfort. I always thought that he and Lisa and could have hit it off, if they had given each other a chance from the start.

[jtalh2003]

this the same lisa who said she would never keep in contact with marcus on the outside?
or have they put a new house mate in with the same name lisa?

[Blink_Me]

Bea did the same thing when Noirin was up against Marcus.

[J-Rock]

Disagree - they were always bitchin about each other - every time I turned it on weeks ago, Marcus would bitch about Lisa's scheming and vice-versa - it's all they ever talked about for days on end

[BONNEIP]

People she actually believes her own bull****....but in comparison with Bea Lisa's an

[Faded]

To me it's still a tactical decision on Lisa's part to try and butter up Marcus rather than try to butter up Freddie because she already knows what Freddie really thinks of her based on past reactions and stuff so that would pretty much be a waste of time.

[jet]

Originally posted by Faded
It's another one of Lisa's attempts to be smart, by spending time with Marcus the day before eviction so that in the event that Marcus doesn't get evicted she wont be on bad terms with him.

That's nonsense. Whether Halfwit or Marcus goes, Lisa has the majority of the other HM's as her friends - she doesn't need Marcus to be her buddy.

[jet]

Originally posted by Faded
To me it's still a tactical decision on Lisa's part to try and butter up Marcus rather than try to butter up Freddie because she already knows what Freddie really thinks of her based on past reactions and stuff so that would pretty much be a waste of time.

Why would Lisa need Marcus to be on her side? Seriously think about that.

[J-Rock]

Oh sure, I was a huge Lisa critic a week or so ago, but after this week's Beaaching, Lisa seems cute

[Faded]

Originally posted by jet

That's nonsense. Whether Halfwit or Marcus goes, Lisa has the majority of the other HM's as her friends - she doesn't need Marcus to be her buddy.

That may be the case, I'm no Lisa fan but I know she's smart enough to know the whole thing is nothing but a game and there are no true "friends" so the more people she keeps sweet the better.

[Toshladuk]

Originally posted by J-Rock
Faded - yeh, I think it's also about that aswell

But their main quest - their main war - is to get rid of Freddie....he HAS to be saved and see it to the end (winner or not) to beat the art of bullying and social isolation...then BB can R.I.P.

Couldn't agree more, whatever Freddie's faults the treatment he got in those first few weeks would've been all over the front pages of the tabloids if they were still interested in BB. As much as i like Marcus (especially after Bea's histrionic reaction to a reasonable observation) it has to be Freddie who stays.

At least with this eviction I'm happy for either one to stay because I like the characters as opposed to just not giving a damn

[kisywisy]

i don't see there being anything tactical in lisa and marcus talking tonight. they were having a nice conversation with each other. even though they haven't got on the whole time, they've never hated each other the way others in there have.

i think it was nice seeing them both chat away and understand each other. he even offered her all his sweets if he left. like someone else pointed out, when noirin left him hurt, he went and spoke to lisa about it. i don't think we get to see them getting on, i think most of that is edited out.

now, bea talking to marcus tonight, i see being tactical. she can't stand him and thinks he'll stay over freddie so wants him on side after fri.

[J-Rock]

Maybe something in that, but I'm not convinced. Marcus was going on about Lisa's gameplans for about 2 weeks with hatred in his eyes...it's all on film

[Toshladuk]

At the end of the day, 99.9% of what goes on in the BB house in the later stages is cabin fever

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by J-Rock
Maybe something in that, but I'm not convinced. Marcus was going on about Lisa's gameplans for about 2 weeks with hatred in his eyes...it's all on film

i think they were both licking their wounds after their first argument and both angry, but it was a long time ago. they seem to have mellowed out a bit with each other. yeah they'll sticll bicker, but don't think there's any hate anymore. don't shoot me, but maybe they have got a bit of respect for each other?? *runs for cover*

[J-Rock]

kisywisy - I'd never shoot you

[jet]

Originally posted by kisywisy
i don't see there being anything tactical in lisa and marcus talking tonight. they were having a nice conversation with each other. even though they haven't got on the whole time, they've never hated each other the way others in there have.

i think it was nice seeing them both chat away and understand each other. he even offered her all his sweets if he left. like someone else pointed out, when noirin left him hurt, he went and spoke to lisa about it. i don't think we get to see them getting on, i think most of that is edited out.

now, bea talking to marcus tonight, i see being tactical. she can't stand him and thinks he'll stay over freddie so wants him on side after fri.

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