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Old 22-08-2009, 09:27 AM #26
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Shes okay at the moment, she was horrible at the start how she treated freddie........ but i ahte to say she seems to care about other hosuemates.... but i got forgive what she did at the start!
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Old 22-08-2009, 09:34 AM #27
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yes she is the only reason why she has mellow is because there is only two weeks left and she thinks she is going to win
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She tells other what to think too much, projecting what she thinks on e.g., dogface, she
doesn't take other perspectives on board, because being older you must be wiser (doh!).
Which also explains why she is intimidated by intelligent people and collects dumbells around
her, loyal and consistent yes… needs to overcome her insecurities and stop smothering people.

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Lisa and her nasty little gang - Karly, Charlie, Sree and Kris - bullied Freddie. She only modified her behaviour when information leaked into the house that she was hated & that Freddie was popular.

Inside she is still a horrible, vile, nasty creature.
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How she is "made out to be" is really an enduring judgement based on her behaviour in the first four or five weeks. I doubt her character has changed significantly since then.
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I can't forgive how she was as leader of the nasty gang,she obviously has that bullying trait in her so for me Lisa'a bullying of Freddie has cost her dearly,seems Freddie is unintetionally bringing a lot of them down,bullying is nasty it can destroy people.remember that folks.
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Lisa exposé

1) Collect people you're able to influence into a group
(those that either look up, respect or are afraid of you).

2) Influence them, projecting your viewpoint
(through repetition, while ignoring theirs).

3) Select a target, as a focus for nominations
(against those she cannot control, instigating bitching sessions).

4) Hide behind the very people you influence
(so to be seen as a lesser evil, which was why other members of her group were evicted).
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She has a very low IQ - 55 - but she is still a cunning reptile.

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Simply a bully functioning at the most basic level. Nothing elaborate like Bea.
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Lisa exposé

1) Collect people you're able to influence into a group
(those that either look up, respect or are afraid of you).

2) Influence them, projecting your viewpoint
(through repetition, while ignoring theirs).

3) Select a target, as a focus for nominations
(against those she cannot control, instigating bitching sessions).

4) Hide behind the very people you influence
(so to be seen as a lesser evil, which was why other members of her group were evicted).
Yes.
Really that is how she rolls.
I'd also throw some credit to her for intermittent floating or to say she just knows when to step back and into the shadows if and when someone else is trying to destroy her target.
Namely - Bea attacking Freddy on her own. Lisa gives 'silent approval' and basically agrees 'not to interfere' and lets it happen.
Steps back in when its over.

I 'would' resent Lisa doing these sorts of things except over and over again the 'target' or 'victim' has just fukking ASKED FOR IT or is a douchbag who deserves it after all.

Lisa doesn't do this to innocents. That is what I like about it.
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However she appears now I can't forget the early days when she was a rampant screaming bully (or monster if you prefer). IMO she's lucky she wasn't thrown out.
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Lisa and her nasty little gang - Karly, Charlie, Sree and Kris - bullied Freddie. She only modified her behaviour when information leaked into the house that she was hated & tha Freddie was popular.

Inside she is still a horrible, vile, nasty creature.
Absolutely agree. Also, BB have done everything in their power to keep her in. They edited the HLs in her favour to tone down her violence. And they gave her at least two warnings that she would be slung out if she didnt change her behaviour. So she did.
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with lisa i just think she was kind of jealous that freddie as all this money and what looks like a brite future where she as had to work hard in her life for what she as got i dont think she hates freddie i just think she is envy's that he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth but maybe im wrong
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That's exactly it. She's feels inferior as a victim of circumstance and bitter with it.
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I detested Lisa up until last week. I now think that Lisa isnt clever enough to be manipulative like people say. I just think she just wants to stay clear of people she dislikes to avoid arguments [cos she is aware of her temper] and just enjoy smoking away lol. I thought this since Bea has entered her camp cos she could have easily used Bea to make things worse for Freddie and even for Marcus but she didnt. Infact she told David to be careful. That made me think that she genuinely isnt looking for trouble.

Im not saying i like her. I dont. But i dont think she is evil or manipulative any more.

What dyu think?
What really makes me laugh - is that certain Marcus fans accuse those that don't like Marcus of not liking him because of his looks! Yet most Marcus fans seem to hate Lisa - there appears to be a definite link between their dislike of her and her lack of stereotypical female good looks! Hypocrites!
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That's exactly it. She's feels inferior as a victim of circumstance and bitter with it.
I really don't think that's the case. She seems very content and pleased with her simple lifestyle. She's never once indicated she wanted wealth, etc. The forum has way too many trolls dissing her.
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If in the first week her outbursts had been defensive and she wasnt in such a position of power then I could have forgiven her, but she was leader of the most powerful group and she attacked people for no good reason so yes shes as bad! Shes kept her head down and tried to pass off her agressive behaviour as some kind of defence mechanism- I dont buy it!
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If in the first week her outbursts had been defensive and she wasnt in such a position of power then I could have forgiven her, but she was leader of the most powerful group and she attacked people for no good reason so yes shes as bad! Shes kept her head down and tried to pass off her agressive behaviour as some kind of defence mechanism- I dont buy it!
She did jack all to Freddie, they had a couple of arguments, big deal.

Nobody in the house ever liked Freddie, they all liked Lisa, you do the math.

Freddie was the one encouraging Noirin to starve herself and was annoying everybody.

Even the psychologist said his social skills, reading abilities and integration skills need big work.

So don't blame Lisa.
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If in the first week her outbursts had been defensive and she wasnt in such a position of power then I could have forgiven her, but she was leader of the most powerful group and she attacked people for no good reason so yes shes as bad! Shes kept her head down and tried to pass off her agressive behaviour as some kind of defence mechanism- I dont buy it!
She did jack all to Freddie, they had a couple of arguments, big deal.

Nobody in the house ever liked Freddie, they all liked Lisa, you do the math.

Freddie was the one encouraging Noirin to starve herself and was annoying everybody.

Even the psychologist said his social skills, reading abilities and integration skills need big work.

So don't blame Lisa.
They didnt have arguments, she attacked him verbally for no good reason a number of times...and Angel. And the lack of social skills is no reason to pick on someone
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That's exactly it. She's feels inferior as a victim of circumstance and bitter with it.
I really don't think that's the case. She seems very content and pleased with her simple lifestyle. She's never once indicated she wanted wealth, etc. The forum has way too many trolls dissing her.
She doesn't want it. It would seem too much like hard work… consequentially she doesn't want anyone else to have it, and imposes her simple lifestyle on others, and anyone who doesn't fit those values she discards from the group. In effect, building mini fiefdoms of hate for a group of approval-seeking sheep. Do you think Tom or Kenneth could be controlled in the same manner?

Bottom-line. Small time controlling Bully, cowardly hiding behind subordinates
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Not really that nasty, just crafty. Should have been ejected for fixing noms for about 8 weeks in a row now.
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I 'would' resent Lisa doing these sorts of things except over and over again the 'target' or 'victim' has just fukking ASKED FOR IT or is a douchbag who deserves it after all.
That sounds just like a bullys mindset. Someone is different and you don't like them so that makes it ok to pick on them?

It's like saying that a geeky kid deserves to get beaten up because he is geeky, or a girl in a short skirt deserves to get attacked because she looked tarty. They are asking for it too right because they offended someone's sensibilities?

If it had been Lisa just having valid arguments with people then it would have been fine, but it wasn't. She was unable to argue, all she did was shout people down without having a clue what they were actually saying most of the time. Just look how many times she told Halfwit to shut up before he'd even had the chance to say anything. It wasn't that he 'deserved it', it was that Lisa had already decided that she didn't want to hear anything he had to say whether it was true or relevant or not. It was simply oppression.

Lisa would take anyone that she could easily lead under her wing and crucify the rest. That is her nature. The fact that she has been quiet for a few weeks (because she lost most of her group and fears eviction) doesn't make her actions for the majority of the show any less excusable.
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I 'would' resent Lisa doing these sorts of things except over and over again the 'target' or 'victim' has just fukking ASKED FOR IT or is a douchbag who deserves it after all.
That sounds just like a bullys mindset. Someone is different and you don't like them so that makes it ok to pick on them?

It's like saying that a geeky kid deserves to get beaten up because he is geeky, or a girl in a short skirt deserves to get attacked because she looked tarty. They are asking for it too right because they offended someone's sensibilities?

If it had been Lisa just having valid arguments with people then it would have been fine, but it wasn't. She was unable to argue, all she did was shout people down without having a clue what they were actually saying most of the time. Just look how many times she told Halfwit to shut up before he'd even had the chance to say anything. It wasn't that he 'deserved it', it was that Lisa had already decided that she didn't want to hear anything he had to say whether it was true or relevant or not. It was simply oppression.

Lisa would take anyone that she could easily lead under her wing and crucify the rest. That is her nature. The fact that she has been quiet for a few weeks (because she lost most of her group and fears eviction) doesn't make her actions for the majority of the show any less excusable.
Agreed Cappa. Its like saying someone with Aspergers for instance deserves to be picked on because they dont understand the social rules the same way as others! Its ridiculous. It might go in the ape kingdom but we are supposed to have evolved!
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people forget too easily what she was like at the height of her powers.
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