[moonballoon]

Tonight Marcus said some quite pro-Lisa things, and some quite anti-Siavash things, which is the opposite of how things were when Freddie was in the house.

I've always thought the huge hatred of Lisa out here is unjustified, and now I wonder if the public were a bit brainwashed by Freddie too.

She is sometimes a bit annoying, but I don't think she's THAT bad ... and there are a lot of points in her favour too ... she is loyal to her friends, and quite laid back, and honest to people's face at times.

Was Marcus sucking up to Freddie? Or what.

[Zizz6]

Lisa is the root of all evil.

[BJ]

Originally posted by moonballoon
Tonight Marcus said some quite pro-Lisa things, and some quite anti-Siavash things, which is the opposite of how things were when Freddie was in the house.

I've always thought the huge hatred of Lisa out here is unjustified, and now I wonder if the public were a bit brainwashed by Freddie too.

She is sometimes a bit annoying, but I don't think she's THAT bad ... and there are a lot of points in her favour too ... she is loyal to her friends, and quite laid back, and honest to people's face at times.

Was Marcus sucking up to Freddie? Or what.

Lisa was vile to Freddie and I think he put too much faith in Marcus and took too much notice of what he said rather than the other way round. Also Lisa seems to be keeping her head down at the moment. How often do you hear her say !'m not getting involved" this past few weeks.

[J-Rock]

Oh I knew there would be some 'revisionism' going on once Freddie was gone and Lisa had a chance to go all kind, honest and moral on us.

I'm sure you've seen it, but here's just a tiny reminder of Lisa the thug in action (remember she was p*ssed off that Freddie hadn't gone, that's what this rant was all about, nothing else - as well as being jealous of him/his background/way he talks etc.,....anyway, let's not go down all that road again)

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...168b3e/play.c4

[JTM45]

Freddie was a good influence on Marcus and the way he's being now is not indicative of a man who wants to go home.

He seems to be doing exactly what he calls Siavash out for doing!
I'm dissapointed with the way he's being all up Bea's ass too, considering he claimed to be a good friend of Freddie's.

I'd still like to see him in the final but i just hope he becomes hiis true self once again

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Oh Freddie were arnt now!

[naranja]

lisa is very good at looking out for those she likes, but if there's someone she doesn't like she bitch moan moan moan constantly and then dip into arguments and then take no responsibility saying 'i don't wanna get involved' she tends to ask very annoying questions in the argument as well, stuff that is geared to make the person look out of favour. Also she never applies her principles to herself- that's my gripe with her, because sometimes she can be fairly likeable but its always spred very thinly on the surface. she spoils it with moaning and picking on people.

[merv]

Marcus was brainwashed by Noirin, if anyone.
There are less people there, less drama and the barriers are lowered, so they have a chance tohear there own voices

[tracy101]

aww love freddie wish ppl didnt vote him out :-( x

[BJ]

Originally posted by JTM45
Freddie was a good influence on Marcus and the way he's being now is not indicative of a man who wants to go home.

He seems to be doing exactly what he calls Siavash out for doing!
I'm dissapointed with the way he's being all up Bea's ass too, considering he claimed to be a good friend of Freddie's.

I'd still like to see him in the final but i just hope he becomes hiis true self once again

I think Marcus is being himself. I don't believe he wanted to go home when he was up against Freddie and I think Siavash was a better friend to Freddie than Marcus. Freddie just didn't realise it and was influenced by Marcus too much.

[HalfwitFTW]

More like the other way round.

It was Marcus doing the brainwashing .... he brainwashed Noirin against Lisa as well. Remember how her and lisa stated off as friends then she started listening to Marcus and then stopped liking Lisa?

What about how Marcus tried to brainwash everyone against Tom?

He has played a very clever game.