[MattBCFC]

Anyone else noticed Kemal always tries and turns the public against one of the housemates up for eviction. He did it with Maxwell and on last nights show he was trying to make out Science is homeaphobic.

[Kore]

yeah he repeatedly called maxwell a 'bully', and that got him out in the end.

[Slartibartfast]

Kemal does this a lot, it's an aspect of the game he's playing well. And he does it so well, it may cost Science some votes from the public, although Science did manage to stand up for his position well.

It's the clearly rehearsed trips to the diary room from Kemal that annoy me the most about him. He knows that good performances in the diary room can have a big impact with the public and he seems to almost speak in soundbites when he's in there.

[Aimee]

Originally posted by MattBCFC
Anyone else noticed Kemal always tries and turns the public against one of the housemates up for eviction. He did it with Maxwell and on last nights show he was trying to make out Science is homeaphobic.

Making out he is? So its Kemal's fault is it?

Kemal, was adult and sensible and pointed out how the sort of things that Science says made him feel which he as a perfect right to do. It was also a [comparitively for Science] calm conversation and not a shouting match. I thought he made some very good points and Science couldn't defend himself. When Kemal said, can you see how comments like that could make you perceived as hohmphobic? or some such question Science couldn't answer.

Either he IS hohmphobic and had no answer [lots of people are- it does exist] or he realised his comments had made him appear to be so and he started his usual ranting, after which Kemal, quite rightly gave up trying to have a reasonable discusion with him and went to get some water.

[Sallaliini]

Originally posted by Kore
yeah he repeatedly called maxwell a 'bully', and that got him out in the end.

Well wasn't he a bully? The way Max attacked Kemal when he was trying to get some sleep? I don't think Kemal was that 'sneaky' then than he is now, or he is just paranoid

[Slartibartfast]

I totally disagree with your version of events, Aimee. Kemal set out purposely to try and make Science look like some kind of homophobe. How many times did science say, during that conversation and hell during his whole time in the house, that people can do what they like. Yeah he doesn't like Kemal sticking his thong covered arse in his face, but that doesn't make him homophobic. He didn't want to get in the pool with Kemal cos he had seen what Kemal had already tried to with anthony and science didn't want any part of it. Thats not homophobic.

And then we see Kemal walking into the kitchen where he says Science said God made Adam and Eve so thats the natural way it should be and there gay relationships are wrong. This is not what Science said, but Kemal has walked away picked up on one bit of the conversation and re-invented what Science had said. This is why Kemal is being clever, he has the argument with Science, walks away and then neatly summarises the whole argument (incorrectly) for the watching public to foolishy buy into. He speaks in soundbites at times kemal and with modern society's short attention span and politicians constant use of soundbites, it is these little comments that remain in peoples minds, rather than the 20 odd times that Science said people can do whatever the hell they like. That is clearly Science's philosophy on life.

[Ruth]

I agree with Slartibartfast. I think Science stated his beliefs and then said that everybody was free to do what they wanted. When Kemal asked what Science would think if he (Kemal) was sitting holding hands with a boyfriend, Science said he wouldn't think anything. Now people can say what they want about Science, but one thing most people agree on is that he is honest (almost to a fault)!

But when Kemal went into the kitchen to talk to Derek he totally twisted what Science had said.

Regarding Science not wanting to get into the pool with Kemal, correct me if I'm wrong, but Science doesn't like getting in the pool at all, no matter who is in there. He can't swim and when he was picked for synchronised swimming in the task they did, he said then that he didn't like getting in the pool. In fact, the first time I had ever seen Science in the pool was when he was rehearsing for that task.

[Ruth]

And also, I wouldn't like it if anybody tried to stick their backside in my face while they were wearing a thong, regardless of sex or sexuality.

[Intruder]

i got to say, in that house they are all selfish and its every man/woman for them self, kemals next victims are science and makosi he is going to get them out if he can or even try, he will team with derek

[Intruder]

you hear derek at makosi...
im very very cross with you lmao

[Jay]

kemal trying to make science look bad back fired last night when he said you shudnt have told derek to shut his gay mouth but 2 days kemal said to science why you tell craig to shut his gay mouth and now evrything has backfired on him

[~*Xtine*~]

I do think Kemal has got some sneaky thing going on, but he does make some good points! I mean how they put up with Science ranting and raving every second of the day is beyond belief! Kemal done well to keep his cool, but i think he was just expressing his view on how other may have percieved Science's comments at Derek!

[Jay]

science did not tell no one to shut there gay mouth it was craig he sed it to so evry one in the house keeps saying then kemal said it was about derek i think every one nose he dint say it

[Kore]

Originally posted by Sallaliini

Well wasn't he a bully? The way Max attacked Kemal when he was trying to get some sleep? I don't think Kemal was that 'sneaky' then than he is now, or he is just paranoid

that wasnt bullying!

kemal was getting too big for his boots and said a swarmy remark knowing maxwell cudnt do anything about it, so he threw a glass of water in his face...

ths isnt bullying.

if thats the case, science is a bully because he threw water over kemal in the early weeks.

maxwell should have stayed, and won.

[Jay]

yeah kemal is just an attention seeker really he must no science is popular on the outside as was maxwell so he did try in his own power make something of nothing

[1_In_A_Million]

Originally posted by Kore
yeah he repeatedly called maxwell a 'bully', and that got him out in the end.

maxwell was a bully

[Slartibartfast]

Originally posted by Ruth
And also, I wouldn't like it if anybody tried to stick their backside in my face while they were wearing a thong, regardless of sex or sexuality.

Well I wouldn't mind if it was someone hot like Scarlett Johannsen or Elisha Cuthbert.

Maybe you would think differently if it was someone like Anthony Kiedis, eh Ruth? lol

[Jay]

yeah maxwell was a bully but how can any one call science a bully he justs argues lol

[Sallaliini]

Originally posted by Kore

that wasnt bullying!

kemal was getting too big for his boots and said a swarmy remark knowing maxwell cudnt do anything about it, so he threw a glass of water in his face...

Sas had pretty hard time trying to pull him away from Kemal and finally she told Max to go outside. Max could have really done something that he would have regretted. Bad temper...