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BlackOrWhite · 01-09-2009, 12:56 PM

Why do you not like her? Whenever Lisa is referred to all I see is 'doley', 'scrounger' etc. and let's be honest that's an absolutely ridiculous reason to dislike somebody. And for those of you who say it was because she "bullied Freddie" how do you feel now that she has been bullied by Freddie and now the other HM's? But it's not like she and Freddie were in the first week is it, they were all ganging up on her and David in a way. So, how do you feel about her now?

PaulyJ · 01-09-2009, 01:00 PM

I have softened to Lisa since she has been picked on, but if i we're to ask Lisa did you bully Freddie i think she would say no, don't be so stupid. That is the reason i still dislike her.

If she comes out and in her interview she says yes i was nasty to Freddie in the first place then i would praise her honesty. Until then she is a nasty woman.

ElProximo · 01-09-2009, 01:02 PM

Another good question is:
Why did so many decide Lisa was the 'baddie' in yesterdays episode?
Are you SURE ABOUT THAT?
Are you sure, even if 'crabby', but are you sure she was not actually in the right?
Are you really sure Lisa was the 'nasty one' or was it really SIAVASH and Roddy for that matter who were being the nasty ones, the sneaks, the users, the vindictive ones,
and,
Are you really sure Lisa was 'bullying' and being 'condescending'?
Really?
Because I suggest that if you saw that in a written transcript and were not told who was who - you would have identified Charlie, Rodrigo and Siavash as bullying, manipulating, ganging up, making nasty comments and all but 'abusing' Lisa and David.

You don't think that because for some reason you decided if Lisa was 'crabby' then she was the 'aggressor' but I suggest you rethink that.

*'you' being too many who saw things in a peculiar anti-Lisa bias.

camaleon · 01-09-2009, 01:05 PM

[rquote=2511654&tid=145086&author=ElProximo]Another good question is:
Why did so many decide Lisa was the 'baddie' in yesterdays episode?
Are you SURE ABOUT THAT?
Are you sure, even if 'crabby', but are you sure she was not actually in the right?
Are you really sure Lisa was the 'nasty one' or was it really SIAVASH and Roddy for that matter who were being the nasty ones, the sneaks, the users, the vindictive ones,
and,
Are you really sure Lisa was 'bullying' and being 'condescending'?
Really?
Because I suggest that if you saw that in a written transcript and were not told who was who - you would have identified Charlie, Rodrigo and Siavash as bullying, manipulating, ganging up, making nasty comments and all but 'abusing' Lisa and David.

You don't think that because for some reason you decided if Lisa was 'crabby' then she was the 'aggressor' but I suggest you rethink that.

*'you' being too many who saw things in a peculiar anti-Lisa bias.

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I agree with that, I was starting wondering if I had been watching a different BB

abrittan · 01-09-2009, 01:05 PM

I think your definition of bullied is diferent to mine. Freddie used his intellect to debate with Lisa. Lisa used her finger in his face and yelled at him. That's bullying. Not to mention indoctrinating her minions to also make Freddie's life hell in the earlier weeks. Get the cow out !

masonbason · 01-09-2009, 01:06 PM

[rquote=2511654&tid=145086&author=ElProximo]Another good question is:
Why did so many decide Lisa was the 'baddie' in yesterdays episode?
Are you SURE ABOUT THAT?
Are you sure, even if 'crabby', but are you sure she was not actually in the right?
Are you really sure Lisa was the 'nasty one' or was it really SIAVASH and Roddy for that matter who were being the nasty ones, the sneaks, the users, the vindictive ones,
and,
Are you really sure Lisa was 'bullying' and being 'condescending'?
Really?
Because I suggest that if you saw that in a written transcript and were not told who was who - you would have identified Charlie, Rodrigo and Siavash as bullying, manipulating, ganging up, making nasty comments and all but 'abusing' Lisa and David.

You don't think that because for some reason you decided if Lisa was 'crabby' then she was the 'aggressor' but I suggest you rethink that.

*'you' being too many who saw things in a peculiar anti-Lisa bias.

[/rquote]

reverse psychology at its worst...

nut · 01-09-2009, 01:06 PM

[rquote=2511654&tid=145086&author=ElProximo]Another good question is:
Why did so many decide Lisa was the 'baddie' in yesterdays episode?
Are you SURE ABOUT THAT?
Are you sure, even if 'crabby', but are you sure she was not actually in the right?
Are you really sure Lisa was the 'nasty one' or was it really SIAVASH and Roddy for that matter who were being the nasty ones, the sneaks, the users, the vindictive ones,
and,
Are you really sure Lisa was 'bullying' and being 'condescending'?
Really?
Because I suggest that if you saw that in a written transcript and were not told who was who - you would have identified Charlie, Rodrigo and Siavash as bullying, manipulating, ganging up, making nasty comments and all but 'abusing' Lisa and David.

You don't think that because for some reason you decided if Lisa was 'crabby' then she was the 'aggressor' but I suggest you rethink that.

*'you' being too many who saw things in a peculiar anti-Lisa bias.

[/rquote]karma sucks don't it

what goes around comes around, didn't you know?

masonbason · 01-09-2009, 01:07 PM

[rquote=2511668&tid=145086&author=camaleon][rquote=2511654&tid=145086&author=ElProximo]Another good question is:
Why did so many decide Lisa was the 'baddie' in yesterdays episode?
Are you SURE ABOUT THAT?
Are you sure, even if 'crabby', but are you sure she was not actually in the right?
Are you really sure Lisa was the 'nasty one' or was it really SIAVASH and Roddy for that matter who were being the nasty ones, the sneaks, the users, the vindictive ones,
and,
Are you really sure Lisa was 'bullying' and being 'condescending'?
Really?
Because I suggest that if you saw that in a written transcript and were not told who was who - you would have identified Charlie, Rodrigo and Siavash as bullying, manipulating, ganging up, making nasty comments and all but 'abusing' Lisa and David.

You don't think that because for some reason you decided if Lisa was 'crabby' then she was the 'aggressor' but I suggest you rethink that.

*'you' being too many who saw things in a peculiar anti-Lisa bias.

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I agree with that, I was starting wondering if I had been watching a different BB[/rquote]

I think you may be,

BB DOES NOT STAND FOR BIG BREAKFAST
BB10 IS ON CHANNEL 4,
PRESS 4 ON YOUR REMOTE,
IT COMES AT 9 OR 10 PM,
LISA IS NOT AN ANIMAL...

bansheewails · 01-09-2009, 01:09 PM

She has coasted through to the final on others shirt tails, (kris, karly, sophie and charlie and now david)

She does as little as possible in the tasks and is always first to want to quit

She says she doesn't get involved in arguements etc, but just sits on the side lines bitching away.

She is spiteful and covers it by saying, I am just telling it like it is

She laughs at tricks played on other people but blows up like a maniac when they are played on her

I am sure i could think of many more reasons, but i think thats enough to get on with

But as for yesterdays episode, I am glad she is gettng a taste to the isolation she tried to impose on freddie and angel.

Patricia4 · 01-09-2009, 01:09 PM

I dislike her because she is horrid end of.

k1ck3m0n · 01-09-2009, 01:12 PM

I've never once mentioned her employment status. But I definitely hate her and will be voting her out tonight.

Why? Well, she has contributed NOTHING positive to the show.

She put a tiny amount of effort into many tasks in the first few weeks (and bailed completely on the electric shock one) until she was up for eviction, and only THEN did we see some effort.

She knowingly and deliberately encouraged her gang to be nasty to Freddie at every chance they got (pats on the back and words of encouragement whenever the had a go at him).

She made herself head of the house thanks to her posse of lackeys, but when Kenneth told her how much she was hated, she wound her neck right in and tried to do even less for the remaining weeks to get to the final.

She claims to have stuck up for people and been a shoulder to cry on, but that ONLY applies to those who think like her. Her humanity does NOT extend to anyone who has disagreed with her (with the exception of Marcus, as I think she realised she would NEVER beat him down) and she turned on Charlie and Roddy quickly enough when she realised they were not backing her stance this past couple of days.

sha has absolutely NO ability to argue or take part in a debate - thinking of the argument with Siavash over his nominating of her (hwo dare he nominate her because of the shabby way she treated others?? Not "valid" is it Lisa??), or the fight with Freddie. She merely raises her voice to get her point across rather than actually take part in reasoned debate.

God, tehre are other reasons, but these are just a few. She'd be the worst possible winner in my eyes.

camaleon · 01-09-2009, 01:17 PM

She has protected the people she liked and she hasn't pretended to like the people that she didn't.
The Siavash thing, she was crossed because she found out that he has been lying to her.

k1ck3m0n · 01-09-2009, 01:21 PM

Was she hell, that was an excuse. She had a go at him (twice) about the validity of his reasons.....they weren't about him, they were about how she treated other people. ie he nom'd her once for being so horrible to Freddie, and also for her treatment of Marcus and Bea. That was Siavash sticking up for his friends, but she reckoned they weren't "valid" resons. Aye right then doll and you wouldn't haev done the same then excused it by saying "I'm just being myself. Just being honest"?? her hypocrisy is astonishing.

ange7 · 01-09-2009, 01:23 PM

k1ck3m0n · 01-09-2009, 01:25 PM

ange7 - loving your work!

she gives hoodies a bad name.

BlackOrWhite · 01-09-2009, 01:26 PM

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Well....she could have.

ElProximo · 01-09-2009, 01:47 PM

[rquote=2511771&tid=145086&author=BlackOrWhite][rquote=2511755&tid=145086&author=ange7]

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Well....she could have. [/rquote]

They were sitting around doing nothing. Lisa and David were sitting around the Bus Stop doing nothing.
They were squealing with laughter at David and Lisa for doing nothing (just as they were).
Lisa was right. She could have gone in there and taken them down one by one.
That would have been acceptable and they would have deserved it and credit to her - she would have done it one-on-one when she fought back against the mocking and teasing,
but,
No, she didn't. Which is to her credit.

Audience is really blowing it this year. No longer recognizing (not wanting to) who was really being the 'nasty bullies' and who was standing up for themselves or just 'being one bigger' - and that was Lisa.

That clip and that photo are showing Lisa being in the right after being wronged.
Think about it.

BlackOrWhite · 01-09-2009, 01:49 PM

[rquote=2511865&tid=145086&author=ElProximo]
They were sitting around doing nothing. Lisa and David were sitting around the Bus Stop doing nothing.
They were squealing with laughter at David and Lisa for doing nothing (just as they were).
Lisa was right. She could have gone in there and taken them down one by one.
That would have been acceptable and they would have deserved it and credit to her - she would have done it one-on-one when she fought back against the mocking and teasing,
but,
No, she didn't. Which is to her credit.

Audience is really blowing it this year. No longer recognizing (not wanting to) who was really being the 'nasty bullies' and who was standing up for themselves or just 'being one bigger' - and that was Lisa.

That clip and that photo are showing Lisa being in the right after being wronged.
Think about it.

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Couldn't agree more.

SurferJay · 01-09-2009, 01:50 PM

Fact: Lisa will be evicted. Let him go.

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