[karezza]

What is the worst Big Brother 10 moment?

[karezza]

Worst moments:

1 Freddie's eviction.
2 Lisa & Bea bullying Freddie.
3 Marcus's eviction.

[charmingmissc]

the evictions of freddie and Marcus,

beas delusions (that only she was right)

all of lisa and noirin.

charlie and nana

that is enough for now, we could be here a long time.

but there was so much good stuff, you need the good and bad for a good show.

[ricky2k9]

Well for that poll probs will be Freddies eviction was the worst, was too early.

When Bea left was a bummer for me also.

[Cybele]

(in no particular order)

Freddie being bullied

Noirin's love life

Rabbitgate

Sree's.... Well everything about Sree, to be honest

Nanu Nanu/Tea and a fag (though the other housemates making fun of this was funny!)

[Cybele]

It is too bad that you can't do a check box (multiple answer) type poll as I would have voted for a few of those.

[Vicky.]

[rquote=2554547&tid=147177&author=karezza]Worst moments:

1 Freddie's eviction.
2 Lisa & Bea bullying Freddie.
3 Marcus's eviction.[/rquote]

Same.

[brian3]

The fact that Freedie and Marcus where both up. I think we where 1 vote away from David being up as well

[Twilight]

1.Freddie's eviction
2.Marcus's eviction
3.Lisa & Bea bullying Freddie

[ricky2k9]

[rquote=2554697&tid=147177&author=brian3]The fact that Freedie and Marcus where both up. I think we where 1 vote away from David being up as well[/rquote]

Yeah it would have changed everything, David came 3rd place which would have ended up elsewhere, Freddie maybe? Who knows.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Freddie and Marcus being evicted.
The isolation and picking on of Freddie in the early weeks and then when Bea turned on him.

[MassiveTruck]

When did Lisa and Bea bully Freddie?

[Vicky.]

[rquote=2554748&tid=147177&author=MassiveTruck]When did Lisa and Bea bully Freddie?[/rquote]

Im positive you watch a different show to the rest of us

[Chantel]

[rquote=2554748&tid=147177&author=MassiveTruck]When did Lisa and Bea bully Freddie?[/rquote]



do you even have to ask?

[cleaner67]

Freddie getting evicted

Marcus getting evicted

Lisa, Kris etc picking on Freddie in first few weeks

Bea going in and turning on Freddie

Sophie winning

[setanta]

Siavash's non nominating rubbish and Big Brother's crazy reactions to it.

Freddie's isolation in the first month.

Kris.

Allowing them to openly speak about nominations was just a huge huge mistake.

Charlie pouring water on Angel's outfit.

Charlie and Kris playing that trick on Freddie.

[Twilight]

[rquote=2554748&tid=147177&author=MassiveTruck]When did Lisa and Bea bully Freddie?[/rquote]WTF

[Vicky.]

[rquote=2554766&tid=147177&author=Twilight][rquote=2554748&tid=147177&author=MassiveTruck]When did Lisa and Bea bully Freddie?[/rquote]WTF [/rquote]

Dont worry, Im sure MT is just on a huge windup mission

[MassiveTruck]

[rquote=2554769&tid=147177&author=VickyJ][rquote=2554766&tid=147177&author=Twilight][rquote=2554748&tid=147177&author=MassiveTruck]When did Lisa and Bea bully Freddie?[/rquote]WTF [/rquote]

Dont worry, Im sure MT is just on a huge windup mission [/rquote]

Of course I'm not

A lot of people don't believe there was any bullying at all and I am one of them.

Freddie used to wind up the housemates. There is always two sides to every story. Freddie never said he was bullied or felt bullied. When Tom left the house he personally said Freddie's actions do wind you up and get on your nerves. We do know that Freddie was told countless times that nobody disliked hiim but he stuck by this behaviour of talking about sex in front of the girls and making sexual noises which all the girls disliked in the house from Sophia to Beinazir to Sophie to everybody in there.

Now the viewer believes he was being bullied. Freddie himself says no. The housemates say he was winding him up.

What happens when you wind people up? You get frustrated and agitated and angry.

Bea on the other hand was a friend to him but he followed her around constantly.

The belief, I feel, that supporters of Freddie have is the people who lived in the confines of the house with him should have tolerated him and continued to tolerate him but how much? How much can you take if you tell the person "no freddie, we do not dislike you" and he then continues to ask them over and over do you? Do you? Do you?

It will wind up most people and it did and they all nominated him - even people who weren't even close to Freddie. In fact, the one person who encouraged voting for Freddie and for Sree was Siavash because he talked behind their back constantly, jumping from housemate to housemate and encouraging it.

Lisa stopped listening to Siavash after the Marcus argument because it was Siavash who wound up the housemates about the Noirin hunger strike and Lisa said, at that point she is not going to get involved in any of the wind ups - and she didn't.

This is how some people see it - not everybody believes the situation is as polar and black and white as people picking on Freddie. The chronology and history of the house doesn't state that at all.

[Vicky.]

[rquote=2554778&tid=147177&author=MassiveTruck]

A lot of people don't believe there was any bullying at all and I am one of them.
[/rquote]

I think you might find, that only people who hated freddie that have that view. Even people who disliked him said it was obvious. They purposely isolated him (Lisa, Kris,Karly) and anyone who watched the show properly cant disagree with that. the worst show of this was them all circling him in the garden, picking at him and then all deciding they didnt want to hear his side, after they had got their own side across and kris started the 'were not talking to you freddie' s*** and then lisas 'lalala' and everyone just walking off.

It may not be seen as bullying by some, but it is isolation, which is pretty s*** by any standards, no matter how 'annoying' he may have been.

Bea was worse I think. Standing over someone on the verge of a panic attack and shouting on about them being a 'negative little person' and continuing attacking them is disgusting...again, by any standards.


Also, do you have a link to where freddie says he didnt think his treatment in the house was bad? I havent seen anything to suggest this to be honest

[MassiveTruck]

[rquote=2554796&tid=147177&author=VickyJ]
Also, do you have a link to where freddie says he didnt think his treatment in the house was bad? I havent seen anything to suggest this to be honest[/rquote]

But he never commented on it and even during this time where peopel said he was being bullied, he did talk and spend time with Kris, Charlie and also Lisa - in fact he talked to them more than Marcus but they also had their altercations too.

As the series progressed they talked more and mingled more and got along as well. Is that the sound of somebody who was bullied?

When you are bullied you are afraid of somebody, you are afraid of sleeping near them and being around them. You in fact hide from them and make excuses for being near them?

Freddie spent time with them, confronted them on issues he didn't like (some that led to arguments) and sat near them constantly.

How is it bullying?

[Vicky.]

[rquote=2554816&tid=147177&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2554796&tid=147177&author=VickyJ]
Also, do you have a link to where freddie says he didnt think his treatment in the house was bad? I havent seen anything to suggest this to be honest[/rquote]

But he never commented on it and even during this time where peopel said he was being bullied, he did talk and spend time with Kris, Charlie and also Lisa - in fact he talked to them more than Marcus but they also had their altercations too.

As the series progressed they talked more and mingled more and got along as well. Is that the sound of somebody who was bullied?

When you are bullied you are afraid of somebody, you are afraid of sleeping near them and being around them. You in fact hide from them and make excuses for being near them?

Freddie spent time with them, confronted them on issues he didn't like (some that led to arguments) and sat near them constantly.

How is it bullying?[/rquote]

That is not true at all. It is possible to be bullied without having a massive fear of being around them.

He didnt comment on it...would you? Seriously...

There are many forms of bullying, and purposely isolating someone in order to make them feel uncomfortable...'unworthy' one might say, is one of them.

[MassiveTruck]

[rquote=2554825&tid=147177&author=VickyJ][rquote=2554816&tid=147177&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2554796&tid=147177&author=VickyJ]
Also, do you have a link to where freddie says he didnt think his treatment in the house was bad? I havent seen anything to suggest this to be honest[/rquote]

But he never commented on it and even during this time where peopel said he was being bullied, he did talk and spend time with Kris, Charlie and also Lisa - in fact he talked to them more than Marcus but they also had their altercations too.

As the series progressed they talked more and mingled more and got along as well. Is that the sound of somebody who was bullied?

When you are bullied you are afraid of somebody, you are afraid of sleeping near them and being around them. You in fact hide from them and make excuses for being near them?

Freddie spent time with them, confronted them on issues he didn't like (some that led to arguments) and sat near them constantly.

How is it bullying?[/rquote]

That is not true at all. It is possible to be bullied without having a massive fear of being around them.

He didnt comment on it...would you? Seriously...

There are many forms of bullying, and purposely isolating someone in order to make them feel uncomfortable...'unworthy' one might say, is one of them.[/rquote]

But that isolation is a matter of perspective and if he was isolated it is a matter of how much communication he had with people during that time as well - which was a lot.

There was no abuse or insults. He did in fact wind them up as well and in some ways, which I would say was purposeful. Making the girls feel awkward and uncomfortable too.

I would also disagree that there are several types of bullying. OK, Physical and Mental but you have to question how is it bullying when he is eating, sleeping, - i mean no real psychological changes occurred with Freddy. He was still a healthy individual and was still working alongside these people.

If that is a view of bullying then I would say I've been bullied a billion times in my life but knowing that he wasn't isolated and was just having arguments, then - it's just a matter of interpretation and wanting to dislike another housemate.

You can only get into Big Brother if you have a hate figure and a fave as well. In order to dislike Lisa (as people chose her as a hate figure) they needed the generic knight in shining armour. Apart from singing badly, there were no best bits for Freddie - ok, the speech in the bedroom, but that's it.

He was only popular because he wound up people in the house and people supported the victim status he perpetuated.

[stickydatepudding]

The bullying, and it was by Karly and Kris as well, not just Lisa and Bea.

[Captain.Remy]

Well, to me, Sophie winning, Freddie evicted, Isaac entering and Siavash not nominating were some of my favourite moments (especially Freddie getting evicted because he was the worst housemate in here).