[MiuMiu]

Maybe it's the fact that Siavash ALWAYS has his ass planted squarely in the middle of the fence when it comes to everything that is making Davina dislike him so much?
For example, his "Everything is cool, we're still friends" attitude towards Noirin,
and "She was misjudged" stance on Bea whilst Freddie was right there, just to name a few.
I don't know,
It's just a possibility.

[Vicky.]

Nah, Im pretty sure that its because he openly admitted not liking her.

It doesnt matter anyway, her bias shouldnt show when she is presenting.

[setanta]

By the way, when did he mention that he didn't like her so much?

[Niamh.]

also, I wouldn't call, the only person to stick up for thee least popular person in the series (Bea) fence sitting!

[farhad]

He said it in the 1st week saying she is a bad interviewer and BB should change her.

[Vicky.]

[rquote=2563981&tid=147469&author=farhad]He said it in the 1st week saying she is a bad interviewer and BB should change her.[/rquote]Yup.

[setanta]

[rquote=2563983&tid=147469&author=VickyJ][rquote=2563981&tid=147469&author=farhad]He said it in the 1st week saying she is a bad interviewer and BB should change her.[/rquote]Yup.[/rquote]

Yep, thought that him showing a bit of balls would have coincided with Cairon still being in the house. Interesting how he became so neutral and reserved once that guy left and he had to develop a new strategy. Also very funny when you consider how he defended Bea tonight.... it's like he's forever trying to act like the saint now. Zzzzz

[Niamh.]

[rquote=2564005&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2563983&tid=147469&author=VickyJ][rquote=2563981&tid=147469&author=farhad]He said it in the 1st week saying she is a bad interviewer and BB should change her.[/rquote]Yup.[/rquote]

Yep, thought that him showing a bit of balls would have coincided with Cairon still being in the house. Interesting how he became so neutral and reserved once that guy left and he had to develop a new strategy. Also very funny when you consider how he defended Bea tonight.... it's like he's forever trying to act like the saint now. Zzzzz[/rquote]

I really like you Setanta but you have a huge problem in giving credit where credit is due!! I know you dont like Siavash but why couldn't you commend him for sticking up for the least popular HM ever tonight?? I feckin hate Bea but will say that she was unjustly targeted tonight, not fair!!! Why wasn't Lisa ever questioned on her alleged bullying of Freddie?? the majority of the voting public wanted this???

[headaball]

Davina's still pissed off at Siavash because he came between her 'ideal romance' of Tom and Noirin (inside the house).

I'm referring to a video I seen on the C4 BB website a while ago by the way, in which Davina was talking about her favourite romances. Her number one was Tom and Noirin believe it or not.

[NolasGirl]

[rquote=2564018&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564005&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2563983&tid=147469&author=VickyJ][rquote=2563981&tid=147469&author=farhad]He said it in the 1st week saying she is a bad interviewer and BB should change her.[/rquote]Yup.[/rquote]

Yep, thought that him showing a bit of balls would have coincided with Cairon still being in the house. Interesting how he became so neutral and reserved once that guy left and he had to develop a new strategy. Also very funny when you consider how he defended Bea tonight.... it's like he's forever trying to act like the saint now. Zzzzz[/rquote]

I really like you Setanta but you have a huge problem in giving credit where credit is due!! I know you dont like Siavash but why couldn't you commend him for sticking up for the least popular HM ever tonight?? I feckin hate Bea but will say that she was unjustly targeted tonight, not fair!!! Why wasn't Lisa ever questioned on her alleged bullying of Freddie?? the majority of the voting public wanted this???[/rquote]

She wasn't targeted at all..what are you talking about..
She was practically given a pat on the back by the two celebrity guests on the show. Treating her behaviour as some sort of joke. There's a reason she's hated in any case

[tinkerbell1987]

haha she is quite biased like the only thing i liked her saying in the whole series was dont u think charlie is a **** stirrer n she said it wen everyone liked him!!! surely he is allowed to say he doesnt like her i imagine loads of people dont like her!!! xx

[setanta]

[rquote=2564018&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564005&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2563983&tid=147469&author=VickyJ][rquote=2563981&tid=147469&author=farhad]He said it in the 1st week saying she is a bad interviewer and BB should change her.[/rquote]Yup.[/rquote]

Yep, thought that him showing a bit of balls would have coincided with Cairon still being in the house. Interesting how he became so neutral and reserved once that guy left and he had to develop a new strategy. Also very funny when you consider how he defended Bea tonight.... it's like he's forever trying to act like the saint now. Zzzzz[/rquote]

I really like you Setanta but you have a huge problem in giving credit where credit is due!! I know you dont like Siavash but why couldn't you commend him for sticking up for the least popular HM ever tonight?? I feckin hate Bea but will say that she was unjustly targeted tonight, not fair!!! Why wasn't Lisa ever questioned on her alleged bullying of Freddie?? the majority of the voting public wanted this???[/rquote]

I like you too but the thing about the whole Lisa situation is that they couldn't really bring up the Freddie incident for fear of the bully word being mentioned, a word that has too much of a connection with the show already. They were just playing it safe and she wasn't the only one involved in it to be fair. Wouldn't targetting her just cause more of a problem for the show in general and create more anger all round?

As for Siavash, he has a long history of playing the saint in the show and it's getting very very dull. I don't believe for one moment that he was being genuine at all really and in any case, he wasn't being asked to comment on it as Bea is well capable of defending herself. He was just doing his holier than thou act again and Davina wasn't in the mood to listen to it.

[Niamh.]

[rquote=2564031&tid=147469&author=NolasGirl][rquote=2564018&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564005&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2563983&tid=147469&author=VickyJ][rquote=2563981&tid=147469&author=farhad]He said it in the 1st week saying she is a bad interviewer and BB should change her.[/rquote]Yup.[/rquote]

Yep, thought that him showing a bit of balls would have coincided with Cairon still being in the house. Interesting how he became so neutral and reserved once that guy left and he had to develop a new strategy. Also very funny when you consider how he defended Bea tonight.... it's like he's forever trying to act like the saint now. Zzzzz[/rquote]

I really like you Setanta but you have a huge problem in giving credit where credit is due!! I know you dont like Siavash but why couldn't you commend him for sticking up for the least popular HM ever tonight?? I feckin hate Bea but will say that she was unjustly targeted tonight, not fair!!! Why wasn't Lisa ever questioned on her alleged bullying of Freddie?? the majority of the voting public wanted this???[/rquote]

She wasn't targeted at all..what are you talking about..
She was practically given a pat on the back by the two celebrity guests on the show. Treating her behaviour as some sort of joke. There's a reason she's hated in any case[/rquote]

As I've said I really, really disliked her more than any other HM ever while she was on the show but she wa the only one tonight made out to be a bitch, which whilst I agree with that so was Lisa but she wa never made accountable, why?

[NolasGirl]

Well Lisa has never been questioned for her behaviour on any of the aftershows...and no signs of it elsewhere, and you're right. It makes no sense. My initial feeling was that it was the result of a subconscious aversion to lisa as someone that's a bit of a lost cause/loose cannon..but that still doesn't make much sense. I guess people just have V bad memory...because Lisa actually evolved and changed a lot more than Bea.

[setanta]

[rquote=2564046&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564031&tid=147469&author=NolasGirl][rquote=2564018&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564005&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2563983&tid=147469&author=VickyJ][rquote=2563981&tid=147469&author=farhad]He said it in the 1st week saying she is a bad interviewer and BB should change her.[/rquote]Yup.[/rquote]

Yep, thought that him showing a bit of balls would have coincided with Cairon still being in the house. Interesting how he became so neutral and reserved once that guy left and he had to develop a new strategy. Also very funny when you consider how he defended Bea tonight.... it's like he's forever trying to act like the saint now. Zzzzz[/rquote]

I really like you Setanta but you have a huge problem in giving credit where credit is due!! I know you dont like Siavash but why couldn't you commend him for sticking up for the least popular HM ever tonight?? I feckin hate Bea but will say that she was unjustly targeted tonight, not fair!!! Why wasn't Lisa ever questioned on her alleged bullying of Freddie?? the majority of the voting public wanted this???[/rquote]

She wasn't targeted at all..what are you talking about..
She was practically given a pat on the back by the two celebrity guests on the show. Treating her behaviour as some sort of joke. There's a reason she's hated in any case[/rquote]

As I've said I really, really disliked her more than any other HM ever while she was on the show but she wa the only one tonight made out to be a bitch, which whilst I agree with that so was Lisa but she wa never made accountable, why?[/rquote]

I honestly think it's to do with the bully word and how the producers want to avoid it like the plague. Bea got backup from the two guests anyway: I wouldn't be worrying too much about her as she's convinced that she's justified in everything she does. It wouldn't surprise me anyway if Lisa does know in her that she f£cked up in the first few weeks by allowing her irritation to boil over with Freddie.

[Niamh.]

[rquote=2564038&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2564018&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564005&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2563983&tid=147469&author=VickyJ][rquote=2563981&tid=147469&author=farhad]He said it in the 1st week saying she is a bad interviewer and BB should change her.[/rquote]Yup.[/rquote]

Yep, thought that him showing a bit of balls would have coincided with Cairon still being in the house. Interesting how he became so neutral and reserved once that guy left and he had to develop a new strategy. Also very funny when you consider how he defended Bea tonight.... it's like he's forever trying to act like the saint now. Zzzzz[/rquote]

I really like you Setanta but you have a huge problem in giving credit where credit is due!! I know you dont like Siavash but why couldn't you commend him for sticking up for the least popular HM ever tonight?? I feckin hate Bea but will say that she was unjustly targeted tonight, not fair!!! Why wasn't Lisa ever questioned on her alleged bullying of Freddie?? the majority of the voting public wanted this???[/rquote]

I like you too but the thing about the whole Lisa situation is that they couldn't really bring up the Freddie incident for fear of the bully word being mentioned, a word that has too much of a connection with the show already. They were just playing it safe and she wasn't the only one involved in it to be fair. Wouldn't targetting her just cause more of a problem for the show in general and create more anger all round?

As for Siavash, he has a long history of playing the saint in the show and it's getting very very dull. I don't believe for one moment that he was being genuine at all really and in any case, he wasn't being asked to comment on it as Bea is well capable of defending herself. He was just doing his holier than thou act again and Davina wasn't in the mood to listen to it.[/rquote]

Well, if we are forced to bring up the "bully" word then Bea was the only one to cry it in the first place! But Davina grilled Noirin, who, in my opinion wasn't as bad as Lisa and Bea, who, was but she got her comeuppance but Lisa never did??? in fact it was never even mentioned and it should have been. The general public and mulitipal Freddie Fans wanted it but got nothing, why?

[setanta]

[rquote=2564058&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564038&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2564018&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564005&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2563983&tid=147469&author=VickyJ][rquote=2563981&tid=147469&author=farhad]He said it in the 1st week saying she is a bad interviewer and BB should change her.[/rquote]Yup.[/rquote]

Yep, thought that him showing a bit of balls would have coincided with Cairon still being in the house. Interesting how he became so neutral and reserved once that guy left and he had to develop a new strategy. Also very funny when you consider how he defended Bea tonight.... it's like he's forever trying to act like the saint now. Zzzzz[/rquote]

I really like you Setanta but you have a huge problem in giving credit where credit is due!! I know you dont like Siavash but why couldn't you commend him for sticking up for the least popular HM ever tonight?? I feckin hate Bea but will say that she was unjustly targeted tonight, not fair!!! Why wasn't Lisa ever questioned on her alleged bullying of Freddie?? the majority of the voting public wanted this???[/rquote]

I like you too but the thing about the whole Lisa situation is that they couldn't really bring up the Freddie incident for fear of the bully word being mentioned, a word that has too much of a connection with the show already. They were just playing it safe and she wasn't the only one involved in it to be fair. Wouldn't targetting her just cause more of a problem for the show in general and create more anger all round?

As for Siavash, he has a long history of playing the saint in the show and it's getting very very dull. I don't believe for one moment that he was being genuine at all really and in any case, he wasn't being asked to comment on it as Bea is well capable of defending herself. He was just doing his holier than thou act again and Davina wasn't in the mood to listen to it.[/rquote]

Well, if we are forced to bring up the "bully" word then Bea was the only one to cry it in the first place! But Davina grilled Noirin, who, in my opinion wasn't as bad as Lisa and Bea, who, was but she got her comeuppance but Lisa never did??? in fact it was never even mentioned and it should have been. The general public and mulitipal Freddie Fans wanted it but got nothing, why?[/rquote]

Basically because of the association that word has with the show and how much bad press they have received in the past because of it. The show was on it's knees on many occassions when bullying of any kind was aired. I can understand their hesitation in bringing it up again.

[Niamh.]

[rquote=2564062&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2564058&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564038&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2564018&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564005&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2563983&tid=147469&author=VickyJ][rquote=2563981&tid=147469&author=farhad]He said it in the 1st week saying she is a bad interviewer and BB should change her.[/rquote]Yup.[/rquote]

Yep, thought that him showing a bit of balls would have coincided with Cairon still being in the house. Interesting how he became so neutral and reserved once that guy left and he had to develop a new strategy. Also very funny when you consider how he defended Bea tonight.... it's like he's forever trying to act like the saint now. Zzzzz[/rquote]

I really like you Setanta but you have a huge problem in giving credit where credit is due!! I know you dont like Siavash but why couldn't you commend him for sticking up for the least popular HM ever tonight?? I feckin hate Bea but will say that she was unjustly targeted tonight, not fair!!! Why wasn't Lisa ever questioned on her alleged bullying of Freddie?? the majority of the voting public wanted this???[/rquote]

I like you too but the thing about the whole Lisa situation is that they couldn't really bring up the Freddie incident for fear of the bully word being mentioned, a word that has too much of a connection with the show already. They were just playing it safe and she wasn't the only one involved in it to be fair. Wouldn't targetting her just cause more of a problem for the show in general and create more anger all round?

As for Siavash, he has a long history of playing the saint in the show and it's getting very very dull. I don't believe for one moment that he was being genuine at all really and in any case, he wasn't being asked to comment on it as Bea is well capable of defending herself. He was just doing his holier than thou act again and Davina wasn't in the mood to listen to it.[/rquote]

Well, if we are forced to bring up the "bully" word then Bea was the only one to cry it in the first place! But Davina grilled Noirin, who, in my opinion wasn't as bad as Lisa and Bea, who, was but she got her comeuppance but Lisa never did??? in fact it was never even mentioned and it should have been. The general public and mulitipal Freddie Fans wanted it but got nothing, why?[/rquote]

Basically because of the association that word has with the show and how much bad press they have received in the past because of it. The show was on it's knees on many occassions when bullying of any kind was aired. I can understand their hesitation in bringing it up again.[/rquote]

So, by that reckoning, it's ok to be horrible to Noirin & Bea but not to Lisa?? I don't get it?? why?

[NolasGirl]

Well it *should* be brought up and not swept under the carpet...this will be part of my hesitation to watch this thing again. I thought we were watching a reality show..real life, real consequences. Not something that will be censored and edited like some sort of hollywood movie.
And bullying should be addressed. BB could be quite educational but it seems the producers are doing everything in their line to resist that. Heaven forbid we might learn something *gasp*

[setanta]

[rquote=2564068&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564062&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2564058&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564038&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2564018&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2564005&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2563983&tid=147469&author=VickyJ][rquote=2563981&tid=147469&author=farhad]He said it in the 1st week saying she is a bad interviewer and BB should change her.[/rquote]Yup.[/rquote]

Yep, thought that him showing a bit of balls would have coincided with Cairon still being in the house. Interesting how he became so neutral and reserved once that guy left and he had to develop a new strategy. Also very funny when you consider how he defended Bea tonight.... it's like he's forever trying to act like the saint now. Zzzzz[/rquote]

I really like you Setanta but you have a huge problem in giving credit where credit is due!! I know you dont like Siavash but why couldn't you commend him for sticking up for the least popular HM ever tonight?? I feckin hate Bea but will say that she was unjustly targeted tonight, not fair!!! Why wasn't Lisa ever questioned on her alleged bullying of Freddie?? the majority of the voting public wanted this???[/rquote]

I like you too but the thing about the whole Lisa situation is that they couldn't really bring up the Freddie incident for fear of the bully word being mentioned, a word that has too much of a connection with the show already. They were just playing it safe and she wasn't the only one involved in it to be fair. Wouldn't targetting her just cause more of a problem for the show in general and create more anger all round?

As for Siavash, he has a long history of playing the saint in the show and it's getting very very dull. I don't believe for one moment that he was being genuine at all really and in any case, he wasn't being asked to comment on it as Bea is well capable of defending herself. He was just doing his holier than thou act again and Davina wasn't in the mood to listen to it.[/rquote]

Well, if we are forced to bring up the "bully" word then Bea was the only one to cry it in the first place! But Davina grilled Noirin, who, in my opinion wasn't as bad as Lisa and Bea, who, was but she got her comeuppance but Lisa never did??? in fact it was never even mentioned and it should have been. The general public and mulitipal Freddie Fans wanted it but got nothing, why?[/rquote]

Basically because of the association that word has with the show and how much bad press they have received in the past because of it. The show was on it's knees on many occassions when bullying of any kind was aired. I can understand their hesitation in bringing it up again.[/rquote]

So, by that reckoning, it's ok to be horrible to Noirin & Bea but not to Lisa?? I don't get it?? why?[/rquote]

Because of the bully word. I know that sounds mental but I seriously think they're just trying to avoid it.

[Niamh.]

So therefore, you admit that the show was bias?

[NolasGirl]

Regarding the idea that the bullying issue has been avoided...setanta, what real reason do they have to avoid it?? I can understand the need to avoid any sort of racist bullying after the CBB Jade Goody et al incident..but surely behavioural problems like bullying are just part in parcel with a reality show or documentation of people and their behaviour. Just a thought.

[setanta]

[rquote=2564076&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo]So therefore, you admit that the show was bias?[/rquote]

No no; I just think the show is covering it's own ass. Don't you remember all the sh£t they went through with the various bullying and racist incidents that have occurred in the past? Sure Davina mentioned in an article recently that more demands and restrictions have been placed on them over the last couple of years so that might explain why they want to bury this whole incident.

[Niamh.]

[rquote=2564099&tid=147469&author=setanta][rquote=2564076&tid=147469&author=Niamhxo]So therefore, you admit that the show was bias?[/rquote]

No no; I just think the show is covering it's own ass. Don't you remember all the sh£t they went through with the various bullying and racist incidents that have occurred in the past? Sure Davina mentioned in an article recently that more demands and restrictions have been placed on them over the last couple of years so that might explain why they want to bury this whole incident.[/rquote]

Yes, but BB is a social study really, it's a real life "Lord of the Flies" experiance, there is naturally going to be bullys invloved in that type of set up so Channel 4 should have been more set up and prepared for it!

[J-Rock]

On Freddie's eviction-BBBM, Davina said Freddie was bullied a bit and so did Terry Christian. It was discussed on that show.

Ever since then it has never been mentioned. Curious?

As for Bea, I do believe after seeing her on post-eviction shows, and esp after tonight (e.g. she said 'don't go on TV!'), that she has been suffering and has learnt something from the experience. Lisa also looked humbled somewhat.

We have all had our pound of flesh! Time to move on