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Crimson Dynamo · 19-10-2009, 05:13 PM

having actually read it..

Is this just another example of internet based liberal hysteria?

NettoSuperstar! · 20-10-2009, 07:49 AM

No its another example of the Daily "hate" Mail hysteria...Charlie Brooker sums it up best

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ately-jan-moir

arista · 20-10-2009, 09:21 AM

Yes she needs to
say Sorry
as he died of Natural reasons.

It will not Kill her.

arista · 20-10-2009, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

having actually read it..

Is this just another example of internet based liberal hysteria?

She made a big error on how he died
thats why they are going for her.

Crimson Dynamo · 20-10-2009, 10:57 AM

Does anyone think that the events leading up to his death were at best sordid?

Scarlett. · 20-10-2009, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Does anyone think that the events leading up to his death were at best sordid?

VERY sordid...

First he laid down
Then he closed his eyes
Then his heart stopped

Jan Moir should be fired for making up such **** and passing it off as fact

Crimson Dynamo · 20-10-2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy

VERY sordid...

First he laid down
Then he closed his eyes
Then his heart stopped

Jan Moir should be fired for making up such **** and passing it off as fact

Are you saying that he did not take drugs and have a 3 way with a random Bulgarian chap even though he was married and took legal vows to the contrary?

did I miss something here?

NettoSuperstar! · 20-10-2009, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Are you saying that he did not take drugs and have a 3 way with a random Bulgarian chap even though he was married and took legal vows to the contrary?

did I miss something here?

Yeh you did, you missed the overwhelming evidence that he didnt do that

Crimson Dynamo · 20-10-2009, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Yeh you did, you missed the overwhelming evidence that he didnt do that

http://www.sofiaecho.com/2009/10/16/...attend-funeral

I love the last line. sounds like a nice guy.

NettoSuperstar! · 20-10-2009, 03:02 PM

...and that proves what?

Crimson Dynamo · 20-10-2009, 03:11 PM

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/...5875-21751006/

The man who found Stephen's body says he has been invited to the funeral.

Bulgarian-born Georgi Dochev, 25, said he had not yet decided whether to make the trip from Majorca to Ireland.

He admitted the death had left him petrified of dying and scared to sleep. Jobless Georgi, speaking from his flat near Palma, said: "Stephen's family invited me to the funeral. I don't know why. Maybe they want to meet me.

"I still haven't decided. I'm talking to my partner about it."

Georgi was partying with Stephen and husband Andy Cowles, 32, in Palma last Friday and went back to the pair's flat with them early on Saturday. He said Andy went to bed and he slept in the spare room upstairs leaving Stephen in his pyjamas on the sofa.

But when he went downstairs at around 1.45pm that afternoon Stephen was dead.

The ex-waiter added: "We were just partying that night but I can't really tell you why I went back to their house. I don't think this is a normal story."

Georgi said he had been looking after Andy, who will fly back to Dublin today with Stephen's body. He added: "I've been speaking to him several times a day by phone."

Millionaire pop star befriends jobless Bulgarian and invites him back to his flat for cheese and wine?

NettoSuperstar! · 20-10-2009, 03:43 PM

Oh right it must have been some sordid gay sex then, thats what they do isnt it?

Scarlett. · 20-10-2009, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Are you saying that he did not take drugs and have a 3 way with a random Bulgarian chap even though he was married and took legal vows to the contrary?

did I miss something here?

Yes, you missed the part where you wasnt there

How can you know what happened in the hours before his death?

Crimson Dynamo · 20-10-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Oh right it must have been some sordid gay sex then, thats what they do isnt it?

As opposed to what?

Scrabble and some after eight mints

What seems to cause the concern is the fact that the poor chap concerned (Gateley) was "married". What was a unemployed Bulgarian, who had a partener already, doing there? Lets face it everyone was pissed and on dope so one does not have to be a brain surgeon to perhaps suggest that something very un-married was afoot.

Scarlett. · 20-10-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As opposed to what?

Scrabble and some after eight mints

What seems to cause the concern is the fact that the poor chap concerned (Gateley) was "married". What was a unemployed Bulgarian, who had a partener already, doing there? Lets face it everyone was pissed and on dope so one does not have to be a brain surgeon to perhaps suggest that something very un-married was afoot.

Strange how there was no drugs mentioned in the port mortem report isnt it?
and had you thought maybe they just stayed up and talked?

Crimson Dynamo · 20-10-2009, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy

Strange how there was no drugs mentioned in the port mortem report isnt it?
and had you thought maybe they just stayed up and talked?

I am guessing that you don't work in the legal profession?

arista · 20-10-2009, 05:06 PM

His Heart
was not Strong Enough.
He would be Alive today if he had a Good Doctor.

The worst thing is the way Louie Walsh
can not handle death of a mate.

Life Goes On.

As does X factor.

Scarlett. · 20-10-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I am guessing that you don't work in the legal profession?

I'm guessing you dont either, I'm also guessing you dont work as a forensic scientist, or dont work as a doctor either

Iceman · 20-10-2009, 05:11 PM

Im guessing LetaherTrumpet needs some Grammar classes, No Drugs involved as per the post mortem. Jan Moir Article was wrong, needs to say sorry.

arista · 20-10-2009, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman

Im guessing LetaherTrumpet needs some Grammar classes, No Drugs involved as per the post mortem. Jan Moir Article was wrong, needs to say sorry.

Yes Ice
Bang On Right.

Stu · 20-10-2009, 09:45 PM

Those who are using the death of an innocent man to further there own agendas on drugs and/or homosexuality should be ashamed of themselves.

The MEDICAL reports by the medical PROFESSIONALS are out. He died of natural causes. Case closed. Take your hate ball and go home.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I am guessing that you don't work in the legal profession?

I am guessing you dont dabble from time to time in sane rationality?

Get your feet wet, kid. It's a fantastic world.

Shaun · 20-10-2009, 10:04 PM

Just read it - pretty offensive.

Stu · 20-10-2009, 10:08 PM

To be honest the article was too stupid to be considered offensive. People always miss the point with these things.

''Was it offensive?''
''Should Jan be entitled to her views?''
''Was it offensive?''

Shhhhh, quiet people. Your missing the entire point. She is an idiot. End of story. The article does not deserve the debate it's spawning.

For instance, she says something against what she calls the 'myth' of safe civil unions. Right. Right. Because straight sex marriages always turn out peachy. Thats why divorce is non existent and the police never get domestic abuse calls.

Right? Right?

Once again, Jan Moir - idiot. What I hate most about her is she is a closet homophobe. Like the ''new and improved'' BNP she is clearly a bigot and a homophobe but denies it in today's public. But we all know it. She knows it.

Crimson Dynamo · 21-10-2009, 08:37 AM

So no theories as to what the unemployed Bulgarian was doing there?

I dont think anyone is suggesting that he died other than of untimely natural causes but i am not hearing much about what a "married" couple were doing with the otherwise attached Bulgarian?

as I said before I dont think he went their for a chat about the x- factor. The Moir article does make a valid point about just how steady are these civil partnerships because men are men. A man and a woman compliment each other sexually, a man and man do not and do not lend themselves to monogamy

NettoSuperstar! · 21-10-2009, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So no theories as to what the unemployed Bulgarian was doing there?

I dont think anyone is suggesting that he died other than of untimely natural causes but i am not hearing much about what a "married" couple were doing with the otherwise attached Bulgarian?

as I said before I dont think he went their for a chat about the x- factor. The Moir article does make a valid point about just how steady are these civil partnerships because men are men. A man and a woman compliment each other sexually, a man and man do not and do not lend themselves to monogamy

We dont know why he was there, gay couples can have friends back just like straight couples...straight couples can have threesomes too and so on...the Moir arcticle was implying that he died in suspicious circumstances and not natural causes because of his gay lifestyle...I dont see how homosexual couples dont lend themselves to monogamy and dont compliment each other sexually? Could you expand on that? They hadnt taken drugs either...you think that would be kept secret? Yes cos they never let on if drugs have been involved? eh?

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