[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Brad.

You don't know Vinnie even did anything, you just said that "most think he was putting it around when he was younger" or something along those lines. Pathetic, name calling on your part now I believe.

Yes he did - and that was fine - he was young. But the same applies to Katia! In fact, calling me a man hater is rich coming from you - as you clearly don't like women very much.

[Stephanie]

Originally Posted by Chels

brad's on fireee.

chels you're sexist.

[Chels]

Originally Posted by Stephanie

chels you're sexist.

omg you too.

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Yes he did - and that was fine - he was young. But the same applies to Katia! In fact, calling me a man hater is rich coming from you - as you clealy don't like women very much.

So now your views are facts? Unbelievable. When a debate isn't going your way you have to resort to calling me sexist when I didn't even bring up sexism or say anything sexist?

So I "clearly don't like women very much", oh of course I don't.

Stop presuming things and start getting some facts together before you try and argue your way into a thread for once.

[Stephanie]

Originally Posted by Chels

omg you too.

no wai.

[WOMBAI]

Facts are facts!

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Facts are facts!

They aren't facts. Give me some proof or your pathetic replies are made even more irrelevant.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Brad.

They aren't facts. Give me some proof or your pathetic replies are made even more irrelevant.

Oh Brad's on fire!

You made the first comment - calling the girl nasty stupid names! It takes two to tango! You haven't called Jonas names, and you like the guys who have had a reputation for putting it about in the past. What more proof is there! Where is your proof - you are just judging her because she is not conforming to male double-standards and being a good girl!

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Oh Brad's on fire!

You made the first comment - calling the girl nasty stupid names! It takes two to tango! You haven't called Jonas names, and you like the guys who have had a reputation for putting it about in the past. What more proof is there! Where is your proof - you are just judging her because she is not conforming to male double-standards and being a good girl!

What's this?

Originally Posted by Brad.

He is a dweeb Stacey, an utter pussy for not doing the sand task.

I think Jonas is a fool as well for going along with all this, he should at least wait until they're out of the house. ****ing happy now?

I don't know why you've said "you like the guys that have had a reputation for..." when Vinnie is a married man for 15+ years and doesn't need your ****ing approval. He is a changed man, a non-aggressive, charming man with a cracking sense of humour and he has great banter (as was proven all throughout last night's HL show).

"male double standards" - SEXISM ALERT.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Brad.

What's this?



I think Jonas is a fool as well for going along with all this, he should at least wait until they're out of the house. ****ing happy now?

I don't know why you've said "you like the guys that have had a reputation for..." when Vinnie is a married man for 15+ years and doesn't need your ****ing approval. He is a changed man, a non-aggressive, charming man with a cracking sense of humour and he has great banter (as was proven all throughout last night's HL show).

"male double standards" - SEXISM ALERT.

You called him a fool - hardly the same as slag and a c**k teaser is it?

I am sure Katia will change her ways when she is settled and married! Again what is the difference! You can't logically justify calling a young girl names for doing something, a much older man did years ago when he was young, and you clearly like, almost hero worship! Has nothing to with logic - just biased double standards. At least be big enough to admit it!

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

You called him a fool - hardly the same as slag and a c**k teaser is it?

I am sure Katia will change her ways when she is settled and married! Again what is the difference! You can't logically justify calling a young girl names for doing something, a much older man did years ago when he was young, and you clearly like, almost hero worship! Has nothing to with logic - just biased double standards. At least be big enough to admit it!

You're "sure" are you? Superb. Where are these facts and bits of hard proof about Vinnie sleeping with lots of women when he was younger? You literally know next to nothing about Vinnie; and if you don't know much about something, don't keep blabbing about it.

And what do you have to say about your own sexism?

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by Brad.

He is a dweeb Stacey, an utter pussy for not doing the sand task.

Nah, he just didnt want to offend anyone.
it was nice of him

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

Nah, he just didnt want to offend anyone.
it was nice of him

IMO he should have played along with BB, it's an entertainment show and he diverted the entertainment.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Brad.

You're "sure" are you? Superb. Where are these facts and bits of hard proof about Vinnie sleeping with lots of women when he was younger? You literally know next to nothing about Vinnie; and if you don't know much about something, don't keep blabbing about it.

And what do you have to say about your own sexism?

Oh come on Brad - you are grasping at staws now! It is common knowledge that Vinnie was a bit of a player when he was young. Nothing wrong with that - just as there is nothing wrong with Katia doing it!

I know more about him than you, clearly. I wouldn't actually expect a boy of your age to know much about a man of Vinnie's age - totally different era. But whether you like it or not, Vinnie was no angel. Neither is Katia. Just don't judge them differently because they are different sexes. That affects everyone, particularly women - who therefore have every right to pull you up on it.

[Jords]

But Wombai people can change. I know what your saying, but that was Vinnie's past, you cant compare Vinnie now to Katia, and Im sure Brad doesnt agree with Vinnie sleeping around or whatever.

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Oh come on Brad - you are grasping at staws now! It is common knowledge that Vinnie was a bit of a player when he was young. Nothing wrong with that - just as there is nothing wrong with Katia doing it!

I know more about him than you, clearly. I wouldn't actually expect a boy of your age to know much about a man of Vinnie's age - totally different era. But whether you like it or not, Vinnie was no angel. Neither is Katia. Just don't judge them differently because they are different sexes. That affects everyone, particularly women - who therefore have every right to pick you up on it.

HOW ABOUT YOU ****ING OWN UP TO YOUR OWN SEXIST REMARKS BEFORE FORCING ME TO "ADMIT" TO BEING SEXIST MYSELF.

****ing hell.

Am I not allowed to call a woman a slag if I believe her to be one? I will anyway. You always feel that you have to compare everyone to Vinnie because he's my favourite housemate. Stop comparing things, listen to my points and admit that you're wrong.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Jords

But Wombai people can change. I know what your saying, but that was Vinnie's past, you cant compare Vinnie now to Katia, and Im sure Brad doesnt agree with Vinnie sleeping around or whatever.

Yes, of course, they usually do with age! And Katia probably will do to. It is unfair to judge her for behaviour commited when young, when you excuse Vinnie for it when he was young. This will one day be Katia's past. Can you not see that! She is young and being typically young and stupid! Not a crime! Like Vinnie - she will one day grow up!

[xDramatick]

This is a discussion about CBB, leave personal attacks out of it or I'll close the thread.

[Brad.]

Will do Darenn

[Stacey.]

wow darenn.
nice bit of moderating there

[Jack_]

I don't understand why people are at all interested in what housemates have done in their past? They're in there to hopefully entertain us and we should be supporting them on what they're doing in the house and how entertaining they are being. People shouldn't discuss or even support/hate people just based on what they have done outside of the house, because it's totally irrelevant to their time inside the house.

[WOMBAI]

How have I been sexist! You have completely lost the plot now! You are male - didn't expect you to admit to it!

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

You are male - didn't expect you to admit to it!

To be fair, that's a sexist remark, is it not?

[Jords]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

How have I been sexist! You have completely lost the plot now! You are male - didn't expect you to admit to it!

Thats sexist!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I don't understand why people are at all interested in what housemates have done in their past? They're in there to hopefully entertain us and we should be supporting them on what they're doing in the house and how entertaining they are being. People shouldn't discuss or even support/hate people just based on what they have done outside of the house, because it's totally irrelevant to their time inside the house.

You are missing the point! I don't particularly care what Vinnie or anyone else did in their past, within reason, as long as people don't justify it as being something in their past, whilst condemming someone much younger for doing same thing now. That person needs the same chance to grow up and realise their mistakes.