[InOne]

Seems so, seems she can't adapt to new situations, and if something remotely challenging arises, she goes off in a strop. I don't think she knows what the social norms are.

[Stu]

She has certain social skills. Like those necessary for being able to sit on a bike with one hand leaning against the shop window owned by the Asian dude, the other hand holding a Benson & Hedges.

[PaulyJ]

Wait a minute now, the example you give is not a good one to show your point because, to walk out when you are getting angry, and people pointing the finger at you and you feeling this is not fair, surely is the sensible thing to do, if she felt she was in the wrong and still walked out, then you would have a point but, i think she did the adult thing.

[Stacey.]

maybe she is used to getting her own way, so what?
Tbhh,its not lack of Social Skills, just different environment and different surroundings that she has to get used to.
her attitude is good not stroppy,just good.
we NEED someone to stand up to Vinnie, because no one else seems to be

[Clockers]

Originally Posted by InOne

Seems so, seems she can't adapt to new situations, and if something remotely challenging arises, she goes off in a strop. I don't think she knows what the social norms are.

What Chav has any social skill?

[setanta]

Nah, she's just a self-absorbed little whelp.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by PaulyJ

Wait a minute now, the example you give is not a good one to show your point because, to walk out when you are getting angry, and people pointing the finger at you and you feeling this is not fair, surely is the sensible thing to do, if she felt she was in the wrong and still walked out, then you would have a point but, i think she did the adult thing.

Yes, but she gets worked up over nothing. She is unable to register helpful advice.

[WOMBAI]

Agree! Very poor social skills! She really doesn't mix well with people she considers better than her. She would never admit that - but her insecurity in that group is obvious - so she gets rebellious - as she doesn't know how else to deal with it! She simply can't express herself in a coherent manner - like most!

[MusicMan]

I thought that at the very beginning, she didn't seem to know how to make conversation properly, and during Vinnie's birthday party thingy, everyone was round the table singing etc and she was sitting on the sofa on her own. It's a little sad
Although I found this quite funny: Sov was halfway through singing Happy Birthday with food in her hand, gives up and starts eating Love that clip

[RealityTVisGreat]

Originally Posted by MusicMan

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Although I found this quite funny: Sov was halfway through singing Happy Birthday with food in her hand, gives up and starts eating Love that clip

I suppose this is the 'entertainment' her fans keep alluding to! lol

[InOne]

Anyone would think she was 17...

[RealityTVisGreat]

Just remembered, her reaction to vinnie's 'speech' or maybe sermon, was to say 'yeah I get it' wander into the garden and say something about sucking her tits!
Not my idea of entertainment, or indeed a very watchable h/mate
If she had stood her ground and told Vinnie what she thought, it would have been far better!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by RealityTVisGreat

Just remembered, her reaction to vinnie's 'speech' or maybe sermon, was to say 'yeah I get it' wander into the garden and say something about sucking her tits!
Not my idea of entertainment, or indeed a very watchable h/mate
If she had stood her ground and told Vinnie what she thought, it would have been far better!

I doubt she'd be able to find the words to tbh.

[Clockers]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Agree! Very poor social skills! She really doesn't mix well with people she considers better than her. She would never admit that - but her insecurity in that group is obvious - so she gets rebellious - as she doesn't know how else to deal with it! She simply can't express herself in a coherent manner - like most!

Yeah, she is a dumb bitch.

[PaulyJ]

I agree ideally standing her ground and defending yourself is better, however i counted 4 people besides Vinnie that clearly agreed with Vinnie against her, and the rest we're shtum on the subject, that equals a gang mentality i would say and i think i would of walked out given the odds. If she had of argued would she of won?, made things better?

I actually started to like her when she did the dance after surviving eviction, Sov may not argue when she is in the minority, but will Vinnie and his supporting cast argue with the majority viewers who may appear to of come down on the side of Sov in this issue, (referencing the way the bullies backed off Freddie after he kept being saved by the public vote)

We shall see

[InOne]

Originally Posted by PaulyJ

I agree ideally standing her ground and defending yourself is better, however i counted 4 people besides Vinnie that clearly agreed with Vinnie against her, and the rest we're shtum on the subject, that equals a gang mentality i would say and i think i would of walked out given the odds. If she had of argued would she of won?, made things better?

I actually started to like her when she did the dance after surviving eviction, Sov may not argue when she is in the minority, but will Vinnie and his supporting cast argue with the majority viewers who may appear to of come down on the side of Sov in this issue, (referencing the way the bullies backed off Freddie after he kept being saved by the public vote)

We shall see

Well it was not a great move by Sov to do the dance. She must have know Heidi was quite well liked, all she did she pat her on the back. People don't take kindly to that gloating kind of manner, it was only an eviction for god sake. She is ridiculously self-centered. If she acts that way on the outside, god help her.

[Clockers]

Originally Posted by PaulyJ

I agree ideally standing her ground and defending yourself is better, however i counted 4 people besides Vinnie that clearly agreed with Vinnie against her, and the rest we're shtum on the subject, that equals a gang mentality i would say and i think i would of walked out given the odds. If she had of argued would she of won?, made things better?

I actually started to like her when she did the dance after surviving eviction, Sov may not argue when she is in the minority, but will Vinnie and his supporting cast argue with the majority viewers who may appear to of come down on the side of Sov in this issue, (referencing the way the bullies backed off Freddie after he kept being saved by the public vote)

We shall see

Door swings both ways, like Sisoq said she has isolated herself, not being a team player. The house is not a normal place, it law of the jungle and strong survive and if she wants to be in the firing line, she can only hope for the public to save her. Being brash and bragging about surviving may work for an American audience but not a British one. Unless you are a Chav.

[dizzy-lizzy]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

maybe she is used to getting her own way, so what?
Tbhh,its not lack of Social Skills, just different environment and different surroundings that she has to get used to.
her attitude is good not stroppy,just good.
we NEED someone to stand up to Vinnie, because no one else seems to be

Absolutely!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

maybe she is used to getting her own way, so what?
Tbhh,its not lack of Social Skills, just different environment and different surroundings that she has to get used to.
her attitude is good not stroppy,just good.
we NEED someone to stand up to Vinnie, because no one else seems to be

The rest got used to it, why can't she?

[PaulyJ]

Taken away from the context yes it was a stupid move to dance smuggly, but she'd been written off by the dominant part of the group, she knew it when Ivana commiserated with her telling her she would see her outside, i think Vinnie said your not safe yet after the first eviction. imagine you're being told you lost before the votes are cast, that's got to make you feel like screaming haha **** you hasn't it.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by PaulyJ

Taken away from the context yes it was a stupid move to dance smuggly, but she'd been written off by the dominant part of the group, she knew it when Ivana commiserated with her telling her she would see her outside, i think Vinnie said your not safe yet after the first eviction. imagine you're being told you lost before the votes are cast, that's got to make you feel like screaming haha **** you hasn't it.

I guess, but, it was the way she acted before you know, with the corn beef, she is not using common sense. Usually there is something inside you that tells you 'Oh, this is gonna piss people off if I do it'. She does not seem to have that though

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by InOne

The rest got used to it, why can't she?

maybe Its the way she was brought up or somethingg?
shes also one of the younger ones in there
and Vinnie is bullying her.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

maybe Its the way she was brought up or somethingg?
shes also one of the younger ones in there
and Vinnie is bullying her.

She is not that young. And you have to have some degree of manners...

[Smithy]

yes, all she does is smoke and complain

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by InOne

She is not that young. And you have to have some degree of manners...

shes only 24, she was kicked out of school at the age of 15...
her mum is dying right now.
She got this part thing,to do with singing.. shes been lucky i think!
Yeh, but manners arent her speciality
Like me Lol