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Blair is under fire today - will he stick to his assertion that despite him knowing that there were no WMD he believes he did the right thing by collaborating with certain members of his government to deceive the country into going to war? Is that even a defence?
![]() If there's any justice at all in this world Blair should be held accountable for leading us into an illegal war with Iraq, and the henchmen who connived with him to deceive the government and the public should be equally accountable. Those still in office, Gordon Brown being one, should be removed forthwith. All those involved have the blood of British servicemen and innocent Iraqis on their hands, not forgetting the blood of innocent civilians who have been the victims of terrorist attacks in the UK as a direct result of the illegal invasion of Iraq. Blair and his cohorts should face a proper trial for war crimes and be sentenced accordingly. |
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He was always gonna have it easy. I've seen tougher questioning from Richard and Judy.
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Another whitewash.
Blair can sell ice to an eskimoo they say. he is the type he would pass a lie detector easily even though he is lying. He said he would do it again if he had to do it. How arrogant. |
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R.I.P Kerry x
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You should not give him that much credit.
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R.I.P Kerry x
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Not saying you weren't....
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You were not,,,.. I should know you better. I am sorry.
Actually I did support this war when Blair said 45 minutes claim. I genuinly believed we would be attacked if we did not attack first. I have an Iraqi friend and we used to discuss a lots about WMD before the war. She was married to British so she was here for years but she still had family in Bagdhad then. When I found about the truth of WMD, I felt very bad about it. Everytime I said to her that Blair was a war criminal, she would remind me that I supported it. I was very upset and angry with myself. She would send me video of current state of Iraq regulary that they would make my heart aches. Certainly If I was an Eskimo, I have bought ice from Blair. My husband, he was in Royal Navy when he was young, is still highly regard of America (not Bush). |
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Yes New Labour Corruption.
It was a Evil Invasion Yanks Carpet Bombed Iraq - that is Pure Evil. New Labour go down in History as Corrupt and Illegal. Good they will soon be Kicked out of Power. Blair should be in Jail as a Corrupt PM at that time Lock the Evil Blair Up. |
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We could turn that into a chant and make pickets! You do that and I'll roll the joints to keep us company. If you don't smoke I can make happy muffins for you.
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R.I.P Kerry x
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I decree today that life is simply taking and not giving, England is mine, it owes me a living!!!
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Got it in one.
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He didn't even have the decency to say sorry to the families of the fallen soldiers. His self righteous "I would do it all again" attitude is staggering in its arrogance and lack of compassion. He has not shown one iota of remorse or shame. I bet he wouldn't allow HIS sons to be sent off to war.
As far as I'm concerned he is a murderer, and those in the Labour Government who were in on the plot to deceive are his accomplices. Its complete injustice that he will escape any punishment. We have never had such a corrupt, dishonest and cynical government in living memory. Roll on the election. |
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Of course Saddam Hussain was the greatest philanthropist the world had ever known who did a lot of good and never even harmed a fly.
Halabjah - well that was an Israeli sponsored CIA weapons test, nothing whatsoever to do With Saint Saddam the incredibly Good and Pure, along with his sons who made Mother Teresa look like the Devil incarnate. Kuwait? again that was the CIA in fancy dress all along, those evil Amerikans ![]()
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Furthermore, the hypocritical Americans and British stand by and do NOTHING about dictators like Mugabe because, of course, his country has nothing they want to pilfer. There are many other tyrants around the globe but Hussein was the target for extremely obvious reasons, and this country were tricked into assisting the Americans do their dirty work and get a foothold in a country rich in natural resources. Blair and Bush - both as equally evil as the despot they desposed. It is undeniable that Blair's act of taking us into this illegal war has resulted in the UK becoming a joint target of the extremists who are intent on using terrorist attacks against us as an act of revenge. So not only is Blair responsible for the blood on his hands and thecomplete mess he has left in Iraq post war, but also for the casualties this country has suffered in terrorist attacks since, and no doubt for those we have yet to endure. Britain is not the Policeman of the World, America took that role decades ago and struts around imposing its idea of democracy on a world that does not require or want its intervention. Britain needs to concentrate on its own problems of which there are many, and IF it believes intervention is justified elsewhere, the government has to present a valid and justified reason before sending other people's sons, brothers, fathers off to war. |
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We had in Iraq a regime that had used wmd's on it's own people, and for some reason wanted us to think they had WMD's
There was also the matter of Kuwait I suspect they were working on something but to get around sanctions subcontracted it out to say Syria. We do know at one time they were working on nuclear weapons, disguised as a nuclear power plant, but that time Israel took action and took it out. If they had not what would have happened in 1991? As for the failure to get the second resolution, that was because France and Russia promised to veto such a resolution, because they were up to their necks in trade deals with the Saddam regime. Had we been able to get a second resolution, maybe there would not have been a war, but nobody seems to be pointing the finger at France and Russia. As a side point, what is easily forgotten by the so called anti war lot is that after the Gulf War, Lybia decided to come clean and get rid of it's nuclear weapons and it got America to take them away. That was one dictator who saw what would happen if they did not behave and for once did the right thing. That would not have happened if the war had not happend.
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Nothing in excess
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Like Kissinger, Reagan and Bush, I think we have to be prepared for the reality that Bliar will probably get away with his crimes.
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No matter that they act like senile 12-year-olds on the Today programme website - smoking illegal fags to look tough and cool. No matter that Amis coins truly abominable terms like 'the age of horrorism' and when criticised tells people to 'fuck off'. Surely we all chuckle at the strenuous ennui of his salon drawl. Didn't he once accidentally sneer his face off? - Chris Morris - The Absurd World of Martin Amis |
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Sadly I think you might be right. Though there is some hope as I read in the Times today that Human Rights Lawyer Sir Geoffrey Bindman intends to pursue an action against Blair for waging an unlawful war. There are similar calls for prosecution in the States against Bush. But more than likely these two evil bastards will wriggle out of it on legal technicalities.
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Of course if you pursue this line of reasoning every single soldier who served there would have to be prosecuted as well, is that what you want as well?
There were other resolutions that Saddam was in breach of, namely those relating to the ceasefire in 1991.
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Could you elaborate? Had Iraq attacked any other country since the end of their occupation of Kuwait up until 2003?
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No matter that they act like senile 12-year-olds on the Today programme website - smoking illegal fags to look tough and cool. No matter that Amis coins truly abominable terms like 'the age of horrorism' and when criticised tells people to 'fuck off'. Surely we all chuckle at the strenuous ennui of his salon drawl. Didn't he once accidentally sneer his face off? - Chris Morris - The Absurd World of Martin Amis |
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I want Blair and Bush to die for their war crimes..preferably by hanging on live tv beamed round the world..it would break viewing figures and bring great pleasure
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If they kill for OIL..on behalf of the USA..im happy for them to come back in boxes Not forgetting the iraqi hotel receptionist Baha Mousa who died with 97 different injuries inflicted at the hands of british soldiers while in prison... |
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He didn't do IT the first time round, our brave servicemen had to do his bidding and his dirty work. It was easy for him to give the command to go to war, condemning other people's sons, fathers, brothers to put their lives in jeopardy on a LIE.
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whats a chilcot?
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The name of the guy appointed to run the inquiry
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