[dirtyvileHARRYuk]

woke up this morning and 2 deaths have been linked to this drug? we do have to wait for fall farcts to come out as i am hearing one of them was on methdone the heroin substitute and he might have had a leathal reaction to both drugs.

this meowmeow dose not sound pleasent and my advice would be stay well clear.



Joes advice on meow meow



2 deaths have now opened the debate,

to the inventors and distributors i have to congratulate.

your brand is now in a catapult,

and it being on the news will for sure cause revolt.

its a tricky name and sounds like the heroin substitute,

more confusion around this substance is a guarantee it will pollute.

its made from a plant fertilizer and that's on sale,

what is the profit when its transformed and a kilos put on the scale.

its the tip of the iceberg and the damage is not known,

but just like snorting cocaine, your insides will be blown.

dealers are not providing a service, its all about the lute,

and once they start cutting it, contamination will be the new dispute.

the joe will offer advice and this is a free rap,

don't go near methadrome - meow meow, don't fall in any drug trap.

[Crimson Dynamo]

34 people die every day from either alcohol or in a road accident.

[rapunza1977]

i think you would be pretty bonkers to 'try' any drug

misery misery misery

[rapunza1977]

well that said, I am partial to the odd marlboro light and glass of pinot grigio ...............

[GypsyGoth]

Never heard of it and wouldn't try it.

[Stu]

You know it's got nothing to actually do with plant feeder, right? They just pass it off as plant feeder to get away with selling it.

[Beso]

sounds dirty, it needs a fancy name like exstacy has.

[*mazedsalv**]

Nope.
Im quite a healthy person as things go. I dont smoke or do drugs.
I have the ocassional cigar (only had it three times ever).

And I drink probably right now, on average 3/4 times a month.

I would never try any drug. Ok, I have tried weed once, horrible, dont get why its so overrated.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

You know it's got nothing to actually do with plant feeder, right? They just pass it off as plant feeder to get away with selling it.

Because it is plant feeder otherwise they can get done under the trade descriptions act.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Tom

Because it is plant feeder otherwise they can get done under the trade descriptions act.

Plant feeder in name only. It's got nothing to do with plant feeder though. It's like saying booze must be a floor cleaner because it's sold as such in a reverse situation.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Plant feeder in name only. It's got nothing to do with plant feeder though. It's like saying booze must be a floor cleaner because it's sold as such in a reverse situation.

But you can use it to feed plants. Hence they get away with selling it as plant feeder. Booze doesn't clean your floor, so they don't sell it as that. If they did they could be prosecuted.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Tom

But you can use it to feed plants. Hence they get away with selling it as plant feeder. Booze doesn't clean your floor, so they don't sell it as that. If they did they could be prosecuted.

No, you can't use it to feed plants. You try giving Mephedrone to plants. I have been around this stuff for about two years. I know some of the people behind Cork's head shops.

None of this stuff has any application whatsoever as anything but drugs.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

No, you can't use it to feed plants. You try giving Mephedrone to plants. I have been around this stuff for about two years. I know some of the people behind Cork's head shops.

None of this stuff has any application whatsoever as anything but drugs.

You can feed it to plants and it is included in some fertilisers.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Tom

You can feed it to plants and it is included in some fertilisers.

Source?

You cannot feed it to plants. You can, but it wont do anything. It has never been used in fertelizers for sale in legit gardening stores. It's like telling me you can use caffeine to remove stains.

Mephedrone is a stimulant and entactogen drug of the phenethylamine, amphetamine, and cathinone chemical family. It has no use whatsoever as anything but a drug.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Tom

But you can use it to feed plants. Hence they get away with selling it as plant feeder. Booze doesn't clean your floor, so they don't sell it as that. If they did they could be prosecuted.

I suppose if you used miniscule amounts of it, to a lot of water you could, but the same could be said for any chemical product.

It is sold as a plant food to get round legislation in the UK, its also sold as an experimental research chemical. It gets round both food and drug laws by being hailed as a plant food, and not for human consumption.

Obviously the people who sell it will use the plant food claim to use the loopholes in the existing laws, do you honestly believe it is a plant food, if you do have a look on the net for any reputable gardening sites that advocate its use. Also next time you are in homebase have a look and see if its on the shelves there.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Source?

You cannot feed it to plants. You can, but it wont do anything. It has never been used in fertelizers for sale in legit gardening stores. It's like telling me you can use caffeine to remove stains.

Mephedrone is a stimulant and entactogen drug of the phenethylamine, amphetamine, and cathinone chemical family. It has no use whatsoever as anything but a drug.

Crossed wires, I'm ****e at wording, but you're completely missing the point. I know its used as a drug but the reason they sell it as plant food is because it can work as a plant food, otherwise selling it as plant food is pointless. Thats the way they're getting round the legislation for it, and it would be sold as something else e.g. poppers is sold as room odouriser because theres nothing else they can sell it as.

Originally Posted by Shasown

I suppose if you used miniscule amounts of it, to a lot of water you could, but the same could be said for any chemical product.

It is sold as a plant food to get round legislation in the UK, its also sold as an experimental research chemical. It gets round both food and drug laws by being hailed as a plant food, and not for human consumption.

Obviously the people who sell it will use the plant food claim to use the loopholes in the existing laws, do you honestly believe it is a plant food, if you do have a look on the net for any reputable gardening sites that advocate its use. Also next time you are in homebase have a look and see if its on the shelves there.

Thats exactly what I'm trying to say- but if it couldn't work on plants then it is illegal to sell it as plant food, making the whole exercise pointless.

[Stu]

No, I am not getting anything wrong. You are. It cannot be used as plant food. That's a fact. It has no application whatsoever other than as a drug for human consumption.

Have you found a source yet?

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Tom

Thats exactly what I'm trying to say- but if it couldn't work on plants then it is illegal to sell it as plant food, making the whole exercise pointless.

Whilst it might be illegal under the trade descriptions act, who is going to complain, real gardening shops dont stock it, they dont sell it so no real gardener gets it. So there are no complaints about it. Besides by the time the Trading Standards people get their finger out and attempt to bring a prosecution it will have been banned under the Misuse of Drugs Act. There is no regulatory body as such for plant foods. Some substances have been banned under Health and Safety rules, like COSHH.

It could eventually be banned under COSHH regulations but again that would take a few years, more than enough time for the Labs that make the stuff to modify it and produce a new similar legal high.

Imagine if some teen got caught with it by his dad who is a gardener, he says "its plant food dad", His dad probably wont test it, just chuck it, even if he does try it and it has no effect on the plants, whats he going to do?

There are lots of different food stuffs and plant food available for gardeners, some work most of the time some only work in certain areas, some like home made recipes for leeks will only work in certain soils etc. however thats not to say they cant be claimed to be the best plant food ever.

[arista]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...=133158&page=2

Yes it is Deadly most made in Corrupt China.

And now another Death confirmed from the Meth Legal Drug.

[Stu]

It's not methamphetamine ...

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

No, I am not getting anything wrong. You are. It cannot be used as plant food. That's a fact. It has no application whatsoever other than as a drug for human consumption.

Have you found a source yet?

It was mentioned on the news.

Have you got a source to say it can't be used?

[Stu]

Yes. Pharmacological common sense. Besides which it's not up to me to prove a negative. Mentioned on the news is not a source. Virtually all the media outlets seem to think it's plant feeder. It's not. It would not be the first time the media got drugs wrong.

Plants do not need methylmethcathinone. They have no dopamine receptors. Mephedrone synthesis is done with the aim of activating these receptors to induce euphoria, alterness and empathy. Plants cannot be euphoric, alert or emphatic. It will do absoloutely nothing for a plant. Nothing.

It's not plant food. It's just not. It has no working mechanism that makes it viable as a source of nutrients for plants. 'Hearing it on the news' is not an argument to fall back on.

[Tom]

I'm sure you'd be falling back on the argument if you heard it can't be used as plant food. Common sense isn't a black and white source either.

[Stu]

Common sense, experience of use, industry knowledge and pharmacological facts are not viable sources but hearing something on da newz is?

Let go of those straws for christ sake. It cannot be used as plant food.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Common sense, experience of use, industry knowledge and pharmacological facts are not viable sources but hearing something on da newz is?

Let go of those straws for christ sake. It cannot be used as plant food.

You ought to let go on your own straws then.

Common sense doesn't always stand for proof, and in the case of this its not in your favour anyway. 'If it looks like a duck, then its a duck' springs to mind

Is your experience taking the drug or attempting to use it as plant feed? You've denied taking it, and I doubt you've made any attempt to use it on plants

Industry knowledge is always refutable.

What pharmacological facts?

Do you have any black and white proof?