[*mazedsalv**]

I do understand both their sides where they are coming from. JJ obviously did not like the way Rachael had trated SS in the first few days and thought that Rachael was the typical popular girl from school... and he must have been hurt in the past BUT

I do really feel for Rachael, it must be hjard being told that your a horrible person, or coming across as arrogant.

I thought the whole conversation was sad last night
This has either wrecked Rachael's odds to stay, as all the girls of the public would side with JJ, or it could help Rachael survive eviction, as she ended up crying alone last night.... i felt for her.

I think JJ was a little harsh on her and she handled it very well and calmly during the conversation.

[Josy]

I dont think it was harsh at all tbh, at least he had the decency to tell her what he had been saying behind her back, if he didn't everyone on here would be saying he's a bitcher and 2 faced.

[JOSH69]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I do understand both their sides where they are coming from. JJ obviously did not like the way Rachael had trated SS in the first few days and thought that Rachael was the typical popular girl from school... and he must have been hurt in the past BUT

I do really feel for Rachael, it must be hjard being told that your a horrible person, or coming across as arrogant.

I thought the whole conversation was sad last night
This has either wrecked Rachael's odds to stay, as all the girls of the public would side with JJ, or it could help Rachael survive eviction, as she ended up crying alone last night.... i felt for her.

I think JJ was a little harsh on her and she handled it very well and calmly during the conversation.

Now Rachael is up for eviction, she starts crying and will try and be as nice as possible to everybody!.....Can,t you see through her????

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by JOSH69

Now Rachael is up for eviction, she starts crying and will try and be as nice as possible to everybody!.....Can,t you see through her????

But she reacted completely different as expected, during the convo she kep very calm, too calm for someone who is hearing someone say to her that she's arrogant, she then put her sunglasses on and went to smoke.

Now if that was Shabby, we would still be hearing about it 8 hours on non stop.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Rachel is a bitch. if people dont "love" her then she attacks them and belittles them to regain control.


She is a classic narcissist. I would wager she has little interests outside the house save her appearance.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

But she reacted completely different as expected, during the convo she kep very calm, too calm for someone who is hearing someone say to her that she's arrogant, she then put her sunglasses on and went to smoke.

Now if that was Shabby, we would still be hearing about it 8 hours on non stop.

When she went to have a smoke she was saying to the other hms "oh i cant believe that" etc behind JJs back, why didn't she say all that to his face while he was speaking to her?

I think she wants the other hms or maybe even the public to feel sorry for her.

[amy-jaynee]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

But she reacted completely different as expected, during the convo she kep very calm, too calm for someone who is hearing someone say to her that she's arrogant, she then put her sunglasses on and went to smoke.

Now if that was Shabby, we would still be hearing about it 8 hours on non stop.

Yeah but thats why BB HM's are a mix of people, Rachael isn't shabby, they're 2 totally different personalities so they will react in different ways, obviously rachaels way of dealing with it is being on her own and having a little cry, whereas shabbys temper just takes over.

I think JJ was right in telling Rachael what he thought, it's better than bottling it up, or just talking behind her back. If they show this on HL it'll make everyone feel sorry for her

[Rachelll]

Originally Posted by Josy

I dont think it was harsh at all tbh, at least he had the decency to tell her what he had been saying behind her back, if he didn't everyone on here would be saying he's a bitcher and 2 faced.

The thing is he continued to bitch about the faces she pulls well afrter he had confronted her, he should have just let the issue lay. JJ was an ass last night. Sunshine to be evicted the boring med student.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Rachel is a bitch. if people dont "love" her then she attacks them and belittles them to regain control.


She is a classic narcissist. I would wager she has little interests outside the house save her appearance.

i agree, i still think that there is a nice side to rachael to come out yet though. She didn't single anyone out in molegate while all the others ganged up on sunshine.

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by amy-jaynee

Yeah but thats why BB HM's are a mix of people, Rachael isn't shabby, they're 2 totally different personalities so they will react in different ways, obviously rachaels way of dealing with it is being on her own and having a little cry, whereas shabbys temper just takes over.

I think JJ was right in telling Rachael what he thought, it's better than bottling it up, or just talking behind her back. If they show this on HL it'll make everyone feel sorry for her

Plus he was right that she uses Ben putting hin his mind that he might have achance but behind his back she's bitching him out. i think it was playing up to the camera's to save herself from eviction. It be interesting to see if the edit of the H/l's go

[amy-jaynee]

Yeah, she was all friendly with ben chatting to him acting as if she forgave him, then went and bitched about him. I hope the HL show shows her for who she really is

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

Plus he was right that she uses Ben putting hin his mind that he might have achance but behind his back she's bitching him out. i think it was playing up to the camera's to save herself from eviction. It be interesting to see if the edit of the H/l's go

That's not true at all.

Ben knows he doesn't stand a chance for the simple reason that she hasn't led him on at all.

Yet JJ slags her off for that. Saying she ignores Ben. Now if she chatted to Ben more JJ would accuse her, just as you have, of leading Ben on.

The girl can't do anything without being labled a bitch, or worse.

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by MrWong

That's not true at all.

Ben knows he doesn't stand a chance for the simple reason that she hasn't led him on at all.

Yet JJ slags her off for that. Saying she ignores Ben. Now if she chatted to Ben more JJ would accuse her, just as you have, of leading Ben on.

The girl can't do anything without being labled a bitch, or worse.

your making her out to be innocent when yesterday on LF she said everythign was cool with Ben then she went off to Team bitch and knocked him. that makes her a bitch in my eyes

[Angus]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Rachel is a bitch. if people dont "love" her then she attacks them and belittles them to regain control.


She is a classic narcissist. I would wager she has little interests outside the house save her appearance.

Am I missing something? She is not remotely attractive and only very superficially resembles Beyonce. If you actually look at her, her features are much coarser and while she has an ok figure, it's nothing to write home about. How sad to make a whole career out of vaguely resembling someone without having any discernible personality, skills or talents of one's own. She is really quite pathetic and it's a typical response for a self deluded idiot like her to turn on the waterworks when confronted with some home truths.

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by angus58

Am I missing something? She is not remotely attractive and only very superficially resembles Beyonce. If you actually look at her, her features are much coarser and while she has an ok figure, it's nothing to write home about. How sad to make a whole career out of vaguely resembling someone without having any discernible personality, skills or talents of one's own. She is really quite pathetic and it's a typical response for a self deluded idiot like her to turn on the waterworks when confronted with some home truths.

its probably cause there's no other babe in the house to rival her
she's nice but no way is she out of this world sexxy

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by angus58

Am I missing something? She is not remotely attractive and only very superficially resembles Beyonce. If you actually look at her, her features are much coarser and while she has an ok figure, it's nothing to write home about. How sad to make a whole career out of vaguely resembling someone without having any discernible personality, skills or talents of one's own. She is really quite pathetic and it's a typical response for a self deluded idiot like her to turn on the waterworks when confronted with some home truths.

i think rachael is already aware of those truths, its not her fault that people treat her like that just like its not her fault Ben fancies her.

Blame Ben and the people who worship her, don't blame Rachael!

[Beso]

She kept clutching her titties squashing them up to make them bulge out the top of her dress, she even told jj she fancied him ...none of it worked so she was stumped...stupid cow thought that a wee fluttrer of the eyelashes would work like it does on the outside..well you stupid bint, you might be miss popular in your own friends circle, but in the bb house your a nothing from the start.

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

i think rachael is already aware of those truths, its not her fault that people treat her like that just like its not her fault Ben fancies her.

Blame Ben and the people who worship her, don't blame Rachael!

buit you lot will accuse Mario

calling the kettle black

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

your making her out to be innocent when yesterday on LF she said everythign was cool with Ben then she went off to Team bitch and knocked him. that makes her a bitch in my eyes

Ben, your favourites has been 'knocking' his friend Sunshine but i guess that's different, right?

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Rachel is a bitch. if people dont "love" her then she attacks them and belittles them to regain control.


She is a classic narcissist. I would wager she has little interests outside the house save her appearance.

JJ has been more of a bitch than rachael has. She didn't launch a stinging attack on anybody who had never done anything to her. He did and behind her back. He probably only told her coz he knew it would be seen on TV or the others would tell her. Damage limitation.

Rachael hasn't attacked anybody. JJ did. Seems your just biased and sexist. Only women can be bitches right?

And what interests does he have? Can't keep a job or a woman it seems. He's a bum who lives with his Mum and spends as much time on his appearance as Rachael does by all accounts.

And his stories do not add up. Fact.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Zippy

JJ has been more of a bitch than rachael has. She didn't launch a stinging attack on anybody who had never done anything to her. He did and behind her back. He probably only told her coz he knew it would be seen on TV or the others would tell her. Damage limitation.

Rachael hasn't attacked anybody. JJ did. Seems your just biased and sexist. Only women can be bitches right?

And what interests does he have? Can't keep a job or a woman it seems. He's a bum who lives with his Mum and spends as much time on his appearance as Rachael does by all accounts.

And his stories do not add up. Fact.

Well said.

Double standards once again rears it's very ugly head.

[Julie10]

Originally Posted by mrwong

well said.

Double standards once again rears it's very ugly head.

hear hear!!!

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Rachel is a bitch. if people dont "love" her then she attacks them and belittles them to regain control.


She is a classic narcissist. I would wager she has little interests outside the house save her appearance.

100% agree with you

[Rob]

i don't rachael is that bad, compared to sunshine she is a saint!

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Ben, your favourites has been 'knocking' his friend Sunshine but i guess that's different, right?

wong