[Jords]

Most of you dont like Sunshine, so perhaps that is why you dont care Ben nominated her, so look at Sunshine as 'Miss S' who you do not know.

Ben gets on with Miss S, however he teased her about having verucas and she reacted badly because at the time, Miss S didnt get on with many of the other housemates and didnt want anything else that they could mock her for. That blew over and Ben and Miss S had a few minor hiccups, but nothing that damaged their friendship, they continued to talk.

On nomination day, Ben nominated Miss S, his 'friend with a heavy heart' to quote, he has no explaination why, and it was very clear he was closer to Sunshine than several other housemates.

Was he right to nominate her now? If hes got a gameplan, fair do's, but after banging on about loyalty, he is not following his own advice, and this is why John James and Dave were annoyed with him.

Not saying I dislike Ben, I think hes gotten insecure because he has become so paranoid and its also made him start gossiping an awful lot, but I understand exactly where the others are coming from, and does make me wonder if he is being sneaky.

[Jords]

Yey, Ney?

[MissKittyFantastico]

Sunshine has actually grown on me and I quite like her now and I don't actually like Ben so I'm not biased in that way

The only way I can explain it is it's in the same way that Vash nommed Freddie last year, he didn't dislike him and they did speak in the first week but he also annoyed him in a lot of ways before he got to know him better. Sunshine was VERY annoying the first week and she and Ben did clash although yes they did speak quite a bit. Because Ben seems to get very uncomfortable in confrontational situations and arguments, and SS did cause a lot of those in the first week, maybe she made him uneasy, and that's why he nommed her? I can't recall his exact reasons for it but that would be a pretty logical explanation to me.

I don't believe you can make friends with someone that quickly and if she was causing trouble, which she was in the first week, I can totally understand him nomming her. It was really unfair that it got brought out because he wasn't the only one to nominate her, 9 other people did too, she was obviously getting on everyone's nerves.

[Dannyboii]

Exactly my point. People need to **** and actually watch the program.

Theres some ***** absolute ******* on here saying 'Ben isn't/wasn't Sunshine mate at the time'. He even said in his nomination ''I'm voting for a mate (slightly posher lol)''. If people can't grasp that it makes me wonder how they actually managed to turn a computer on and post on here.

[headaball]

Originally Posted by Jords

Yey, Ney?

Ney and Sunshine is my 2nd favourite after Ben.

[Jords]

Oh that is quite a good point actually Michelle! He nominated Sunshine and Shabby, whom in week 1 were the 2 housemates that caused the most drama, so I can totally see that viewpoint.

But yeah, I never used the term 'friend' as youre right, you cant really call somebody a friend who youve only known a few days, however he was still close to her than many of the others and was rather backstabby when shes part of his group with JJ, Dave and Mario and he would know she wouldnt nominate him because shes trustworthy.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by Jords

Oh that is quite a good point actually Michelle! He nominated Sunshine and Shabby, whom in week 1 were the 2 housemates that caused the most drama, so I can totally see that viewpoint.

But yeah, I never used the term 'friend' as youre right, you cant really call somebody a friend who youve only known a few days, however he was still close to her than many of the others and was rather backstabby when shes part of his group with JJ, Dave and Mario and he would know she wouldnt nominate him because shes trustworthy.

I might be totally wrong (it wont be the first time or the last ) but I'm just trying to see it from both sides, that could be the reason, I actually forgot he nommed Shabby as well, but that would kind of back up the theory.

I do think Ben is a bit sneaky and manipulative mind, I'm just looking at it from it being the first week and noone really being THAT close.