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Old 01-07-2010, 11:35 AM #1
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Default Why hasn't Gay Marriage been legalised in the UK?

The Liberal Democrats are partly in charge and the Conservatives said they would, so what the ****?
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The Liberal Democrats are partly in charge and the Conservatives said they would, so what the ****?
Conservatives NEVER said they would ... they said they wouldn't. I think they ought to be allowed to marry and have a civil union and even adopt but England isn't the most progressive place.
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Conservatives NEVER said they would ... they said they wouldn't. I think they ought to be allowed to marry and have a civil union and even adopt but England isn't the most progressive place.

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but at least We Ain't as Bad as Down Under
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Gay people can get married in the uk, or at least the equivalent of being married.

Same-sex marriagesSame-sex couples are now able to enter into a civil partnership by registering a formal commitment to one another. This gives them legal recognition for their relationship, which means they have almost exactly the same rights and responsibilities as married couples.

Gay couples are also able to adopt.
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Gay people can get married in the uk, or at least the equivalent of being married.

Same-sex marriagesSame-sex couples are now able to enter into a civil partnership by registering a formal commitment to one another. This gives them legal recognition for their relationship, which means they have almost exactly the same rights and responsibilities as married couples.

Gay couples are also able to adopt.
Separate is NOT equal. That's been proven.

By your logic we could also give gays their own drinking fountains, after all, the water is just as good from the gay drinking fountain as the str8 fountain, right? Let's also put them in their own special section on the back of the bus, because the seats on the back of the bus are just as comfortable as the seats on the front of the bus, right?

Separate is NOT equal.
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Didn't Elton John have a civil wedding, and that guy from Litte bitain?
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I also think widows should be entitled to inheritenc just like every other couple.
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It would be stupid for the government not to do it. Even the deeply Catholic country Argentina recently legalised it.

Civil partnerships offer the same legal benefits in the UK, but its still an awfully prosaic phrase... it makes the relationship sound platonic. Not calling it marriage is a very backward "seperate-but-equal" mentality.
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It would be stupid for the government not to do it. Even the deeply Catholic country Argentina recently legalised it.

Civil partnerships offer the same legal benefits in the UK, but its still an awfully prosaic phrase... it makes the relationship sound platonic. Not calling it marriage is a very backward "seperate-but-equal" mentality.
Probably because as opposed to amending the Marriage Act it would have called for a major rewriting the whole thing.

Now we have a situation that is meant to mollify gay people by giving them all the rights of a traditional marriage, while satisfying the sanctimonious religious straight people by not calling it marriage.

You cant please all of the people all of the time, but its not a bad compromise.
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Probably because as opposed to amending the Marriage Act it would have called for a major rewriting the whole thing.

Now we have a situation that is meant to mollify gay people by giving them all the rights of a traditional marriage, while satisfying the sanctimonious religious straight people by not calling it marriage.

You cant please all of the people all of the time, but its not a bad compromise.
Well they should fix the Marriage Act and give us gay people marriage. There's not one single reason in the whole world why gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry. =/
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it will be soon, its a gradual process, first you make queers legal, then you bombard us with them on TV to make it seem normal, gradually through programming it becomes more acceptable, and bingo mission accomplished.

not that long ago queers were in the same category as paedos, but now hardly anyone even realises this.
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it will be soon, its a gradual process, first you make queers legal, then you bombard us with them on TV to make it seem normal, gradually through programming it becomes more acceptable, and bingo mission accomplished.

not that long ago queers were in the same category as paedos, but now hardly anyone even realises this.
Either a religious bigot, a homosexual in denial or just plain stupid and ignorant
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I still think it's ridiculous how religion is brought into law and politics. And how people use the bible to justify why gay marriage shouldn't be legal.
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^Are you ****ing mental? What's your beef with gay people?
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the same as it would be if paedos were suddenly legalised, wouldant make it any better would it sonny.
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I really dont see the need when there is civil partnerships for gay couples anyway...?
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I really dont see the need when there is civil partnerships for gay couples anyway...?
Because I might wanna be counted as "married" like everyone else. It's not fair that I don't have the same rights.
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But isnt a wedding/ marrige religious?
What is the need, when its like trying to change religions
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But isnt a wedding/ marrige religious?
What is the need, when its like trying to change religions
Hey, I'm a Christian. God's not retarded. He wouldn't give people the possibility to love people of the same sex so much so that they'd wanna get married.
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I wouldn't have a problem with it if the fact that it's a religious ceremony was enforced upon straight couples. Plenty of non-religious straight people marry, so why shouldn't they be forced to have a civil partnership? Fact of the matter is, I doubt this'll ever happen. And I don't want it to either, because although I may not be relgious, I still want to marry.

The point I'm trying to make is you can't have one rule for straight people and another rule for gay people. Either it becomes a religious ceremony strictly for religious people only, or it becomes a religious ceremony that anyone of any sexuality can have.
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I wouldn't have a problem with it if the fact that it's a religious ceremony was enforced upon straight couples. Plenty of non-religious straight people marry, so why shouldn't they be forced to have a civil partnership? Fact of the matter is, I doubt this'll ever happen. And I don't want it to either, because although I may not be relgious, I still want to marry.

The point I'm trying to make is you can't have one rule for straight people and another rule for gay people. Either it becomes a religious ceremony strictly for religious people only, or it becomes a religious ceremony that anyone of any sexuality can have.
Thats the way it should be however you are preaching to the wrong people, I suggest you take it up with the heads of the various religions.
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I did actually think a civil partnership was the name given for a gay marriage.
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The government should be all for gay marriage afterall they have their own with Clegg and Cameron.
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