[Chels]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

It's not all Pimms and croquet - but he appears to go from one extreme to the other - ie chavvy thug!

Wombai, give us a definition of a "chav." I bet you're wrong.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by stonedape

So people don't hate Ben because he's posh, they love Ben because he's posh. What a ****ing genius theory

I couldn't give two ****s what type of Spice Girl Ben is (though we are low on Posh). Ben is a central figure to the show as leader of the non-smokers, as is Scabs, and they drive the story. They are not people I would spend any time with IRL, but I'm not being asked.

to claymores: Don't like being called an apologist or compared to defenders of the most boring person and worst winner in BB history, BB9 Rachel. How are Ben and Rachel at all comparable?

Some do. Have you read the forum?

There are some people on here who love the fact that he thinks he's above them,.

[King Gizzard]

It very much is to do with him being posh that you don't like him, he makes throw away comments like the rest of them, yet cause hes posh you can't hear the banter in his voice, JJ gets away with murder so do the others

[InOne]

Originally Posted by stonedape

So people don't hate Ben because he's posh, they love Ben because he's posh. What a ****ing genius theory

I couldn't give two ****s what type of Spice Girl Ben is (though we are low on Posh). Ben is a central figure to the show as leader of the non-smokers, as is Scabs, and they drive the story. They are not people I would spend any time with IRL, but I'm not being asked.

to claymores: Don't like being called an apologist or compared to defenders of the most boring person and worst winner in BB history, BB9 Rachel. How are Ben and Rachel at all comparable?

Makes the show? He is a bumbling idiot with warped views. He is a crap HM.

[stonedape]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Some do. Have you read the forum?

If you're going to make that assumption you can't get butthurt when they do it to you.

[stonedape]

Originally Posted by InOne

Makes the show? He is a bumbling idiot with warped views. He is a crap HM.

Didn't say he makes the show, said he's a central figure. And he is. He is the leader of Mario/Dave the way Shabby leads Caoihweme/Ife, and they've driven the story continually past the Mole task. Idiocy and viewpoints have nothing to do with it.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by stonedape

If you're going to make that assumption you can't get butthurt when they do it to you.

You cant have read the forum. It clear that some people love the fact that he thinks he's above them, they celebrate it and claim he actually is above them.

[Chels]

Mario/Ben, Shabby/Caoimhe and the JJ/Josie combo's all need to ****.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by stonedape

Didn't say he makes the show, said he's a central figure. And he is. He is the leader of Mario/Dave the way Shabby leads Caoihweme/Ife, and they've driven the story continually past the Mole task. Idiocy and viewpoints have nothing to do with it.

Mario and Dave have pretty much given up on him. He's screwed them both over.

[Stacey.]

Yeah it's stupid when people say that.

Loads of people on the forum loved Freddie and he was posh.. Ben's just a twat.

[stonedape]

Originally Posted by InOne

Mario and Dave have pretty much given up on him. He's screwed them both over.

And that's INTERESTING Shabby's having the same problems with her crew, and that's also INTERESTING

Your solution is really to keep the near-vegetable level of entertainment, the floaters? Really? You brits make the same mistakes every. freaking. year.

[Chels]

THERE IS NO TEAMS ANYMORE caps

[InOne]

Originally Posted by stonedape

And that's INTERESTING Shabby's having the same problems with her crew, and that's also INTERESTING

Your solution is really to keep the near-vegetable level of entertainment, the floaters? Really? You brits make the same mistakes every. freaking. year.

Bens crew is not interesting. Anything he does is not interesting. He is a boring twat end of.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

chavvy thug!

it seems you hate Nathan because he isnt posh...

[InOne]

Julia you go on like Nathan goes out every weekend beating people up or something. When actually he's been trying to get his own business off the ground and has hardly been out since Xmas.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

It's not all Pimms and croquet - but he appears to go from one extreme to the other - ie chavvy thug!

I can move to - make a little boy as Ben backpeddle or go to speak to people without Barbours, then talk actually what is happening 2010

[Chels]

Originally Posted by InOne

Julia you go on like Nathan goes out every weekend beating people up or something. When actually he's been trying to get his own business off the ground and has hardly been out since Xmas.

I swear she called him a woman beater before as well.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Chels

I swear she called him a woman beater before as well.

It's ridiculous isn't it lol

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Nate

It very much is to do with him being posh that you don't like him

Nate, this has been explained to you a hundred times, but as ever you block anything that dosent sit within your agenda.

I will try once more though, for the good it will do...

No it isnt.

Freddie was posh, I supported him.

Ben is disliked because of the type of person he is, saying anything else is a excuse.

Look, Ben is an elitest pr1ck (not the same as posh at all) who sneeringly looks down on you as a class, and indeed everyone that watches and enjoys this show, by his own multiple admissions.

Why would you praise him for that?

[stonedape]

I'm evacuating this thinly veiled class battle. I'll just say this is the same mistake made every year. You guys religiously focus on evicting the big characters until we're left with Rachel or Sophie, and it's a shame.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Chels

I swear she called him a woman beater before as well.

How dare you - I never said any such thing - that is really pretty sick to make things like that up!

[Chels]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Nate, this has been explained to you a hundred times, but as ever you block anything that dosent sit within your agenda.

I will try once more though, for the good it will do...

No it isnt.

Freddie was posh, I supported him.

Ben is disliked because of the type of person he is, saying anything else is a excuse.

Look, Ben is an elitest pr1ck (not the same as posh at all) who sneeringly looks down on you as a class, and indeed everyone that watches and enjoys this show, by his own multiple admissions.

Why would you praise him for that?

Ben fans can see no wrong in him, he's a saint

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by stonedape

You guys religiously focus on evicting the big characters until we're left with Rachel or Sophie, and it's a shame.

Not the same debate at all, but buh bye

[Chels]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

How dare you - I never said any such thing - that is really pretty sick to make things like that up!

Didn't make it up, I'm not like that at all! You said before "I wouldn't be suprised if he clubs poor unsuspecting females over the head"

I can get the bloody quote if you want me to!!

[stonedape]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Not the same debate at all, but buh bye

It's the same debate.