[Parmy]

Because it seems on here that you can't have a negative view point on steve because he has injuries from his time in the army!

[billy123]

this argument is over beso cant you just leave it?
feel free to criticise steve but dont drag the insults so low that they are personally offensive to people.

[Vicky.]

Noone said you cant have a negative view on steve

[chuff me dizzy]

Everyone on here knows my story of the army and its soldiers ,but i think Steve should be in BB as an equal,he should not stay longer because hes been in the army,he should be able to be nominated because hes boring,lazy,annoying if he was as he should not be a special case ,but the hm8s are really careful what they say ,IMO its pc gone mad

[spitfire]

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Noone said you cant have a negative view on steve

It seems the abuse given out to people who do though is overlooked by you the mods when it comes to steve.

So in a roundabout way, it seems that the view is, no you can't because if you do you get hounded in other threads for something negative you have posted about steve in another thread, which makes it near impossible for any further interaction.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Everyone on here knows my story of the army and its soldiers ,but i think Steve should be in BB as an equal,he should not stay longer because hes been in the army,he should be able to be nominated because hes boring,lazy,annoying if he was as he should not be a special case ,but the hm8s are really careful what they say ,IMO its pc gone mad

And he should be treated the same way as any other housemate on the forum, and the people who treat him the same as any other housemate on the forum should be treated like any other member of the forum.

[billy123]

[Jordan.]

He is Steve the bore.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by bobnot

this argument is over beso cant you just leave it?
feel free to criticise steve but dont drag the insults so low that they are personally offensive to people.

This!

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

this argument is over beso cant you just leave it?
feel free to criticise steve but dont drag the insults so low that they are personally offensive to people.

I agree to that.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by beso

It seems the abuse given out to people who do though is overlooked by you the mods when it comes to steve.

So in a roundabout way, it seems that the view is, no you can't because if you do you get hounded in other threads for something negative you have posted about steve in another thread, which makes it near impossible for any further interaction.

Personally I have seen no abuse toward people who dont like steve. Maybe I have missed a lot, but I cant read every post that is made.

What I have seen, and admittedly once or twice ignored, is abuse toward people who think it is funny to mock his injuries.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

oh you mean dragging insults like this one out!

[stonedape]

Overly negative views on Steve seem just as arbitrary and potentially based on his disabilities/armyness as overly positive views on Steve. IMO, any judgement other than "he's boring" seems like a stretch.

But I don't think toothpick's thread should have been locked based on the original post, it just got really low really fast.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

this argument is over beso cant you just leave it?
feel free to criticise steve but dont drag the insults so low that they are personally offensive to people.

Amen to that

[billy123]

Originally Posted by beso

I agree to that.

cool then you wont run into any criticism for that go for it call him a fat bore or whatever you like.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Personally I have seen no abuse toward people who dont like steve. Maybe I have missed a lot, but I cant read every post that is made.

What I have seen, and admittedly once or twice ignored, is abuse toward people who think it is funny to mock his injuries.

If your mocking steves injuries then surely there is no place on this forum for that person!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by beso

If your mocking steves injuries then surely there is no place on this forum for that person!

What?

[hotleggs]

poor steve

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

cool then you wont run into any criticism for that go for it call him a fat bore or whatever you like.

Why would I do that, he's a good housemate, from what I have seen of him he is better and more entertaining than loads in there, bb just seems to overlook his chats and force feed us the army tale.

Which, if I was steve I would be gutted about because I'd be thinking there's a lot more to me than my army life.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by beso

oh you mean dragging insults like this one out!

il take that one back and apoligise the forum went on a go slow for me and when it finally posted a few posts with more common sense had appeared.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

What?

EH!


If someone mocks steves injuries, then there should be no place on this or any forum frequented by normal minded people for that person!

Have you had a long day or something?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by beso

EH!


If someone mocks steves injuries, then there should be no place on this or any forum frequented by normal minded people for that person!

Have you had a long day or something?

I have indeed

[billy123]

Originally Posted by beso

Why would I do that, he's a good housemate, from what I have seen of him he is better and more entertaining than loads in there, bb just seems to overlook his chats and force feed us the army tale.

Which, if I was steve I would be gutted about because I'd be thinking there's a lot more to me than my army life.

i dont think they so much as overlooked them i think they were just fairly minor events that probably would have made the cut on most HL shows but tonight was a packed show there were just bigger events to cover.
and i dont think anyone pushes the army angle although it is obviousley still a big part of steves character.

[Zippy]

Steve may be dull but he's not aggressive or nasty to other HMs. He generally keeps himself to himself. He had one rant during the bedroom incident. Big deal. Considering his age and what he's been through Im staggered he hasn't blown a fuse many other times over the petty nonsense in the house.

JJ and Nathan rant and swear all the time. Steve does it once and suddenly he's a nasty man. Er, no, he's actually incredibly tolerant in a house full of shallow young people.

That said, he's not an exciting or relevant HM as he isn't really involved in any storylines. His disabilities and age do put him on the sidelines somewhat. Not all his fault.

Either way, be respectful to his injuries because they are very REAL and impacting on his life, still. Unlike JJs school bullying which he should get the **** over already.