[MojoNixon]

Now i understand why Steve was getting angry.

"30's blah blah blah" now that's stupid rubbish Ben.

[erchie]

utter ass hole is our Ben !

[Lee.]

Is he really? I can't really believe that! What exactly has he said? Is he actaully arguing a case for Nazism??

[Chels]

I know :| he said Britain shouldn't have got involved in the war! ****ing idiot!!

[MissKittyFantastico]

Ben is explaining himself now, saying that he just doesn't agree with us getting involved in wars all the time, though how he can say that he doesn't think we should have been involved in the Second World War baffles me lol.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by happyland

Is he really? I can't really believe that! What exactly has he said? Is he actaully arguing a case for Nazism??

Not directly, but he says that war could been avoid back then 30's, with different foreign policy.

Like Hitler could been different then....

[-Sue-]

OMG if that what was really said I am lost for words...I knew Ben was an opinionated pompus vile human being but that is beyond a joke...

[SocietyIsRuined]

Of all the things that are taboo to talk about on television, Ben breaks another one. Don't agree with him but he's entitled to have his views. That's why I like him, you know it's him and he's not playing a moralistic puppet for the sake of the public.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Kitty

Ben is explaining himself now, saying that he just doesn't agree with us getting involved in wars all the time, though how he can say that he doesn't think we should have been involved in the Second World War baffles me lol.

you have summed it up Michelle

So if he loves this country so much, he rather we let Nazis come here and take us over and us speaking all german?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i think he sometimes says things just for the sake of being controversial

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

can someone unbiased give brief outline of what he actually said rather than everyone jumpin on the bandwagon

if he said somethin like the jews had it comin, then obviously he is out of line

but if he said he thinks Britain should avoid going to war, this is good idea

country would be lot better off if we didnt keep going to war to fund the banks

[MojoNixon]

Basically Ben says : If UK were nicer to Germany, they would have not invade Poland, France, Norway (killing Jews, Jehovas and so on)? He is out of his mind.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

you have summed it up Michelle

So if he loves this country so much, he rather we let Nazis come here and take us over and us speaking all german?

He really is a twit

I mean I do agree with him when he says we get involved in wars that don't concern us really, but to say that if we had a different foreign policy then the second world war could have been avoided is just crazy! How would that have stopped an evil lunatic like Hitler? I swear he's on another planet

[DrunkerThanMoses]

God even if uk were nice to Germany they were stil lgoing to invade other countries

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

can someone unbiased give brief outline of what he actually said rather than everyone jumpin on the bandwagon

if he said somethin like the jews had it comin, then obviously he is out of line

but if he said he thinks Britain should avoid going to war, this is good idea

country would be lot better off if we didnt keep going to war to fund the banks

Yeah.. that's what I want to know too.. It's kind of a misleading thread title if Ben has been saying that he thinks Britain should stay out of conflict!
I kinda thought he had been bigging up Adolf and goosestepping about the house!

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

God even if uk were nice to Germany they were stil lgoing to invade other countries

Exactly! Ben is stupid. And after Nazis would have conquer Europe, UK would have leaved alone?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

can someone unbiased give brief outline of what he actually said rather than everyone jumpin on the bandwagon

if he said somethin like the jews had it comin, then obviously he is out of line

but if he said he thinks Britain should avoid going to war, this is good idea

country would be lot better off if we didnt keep going to war to fund the banks

he said he doesn't think we should get involved in the wars all the time,I'm sure more will come out during the day of what he ACTUALLY said and meant,in the meantime best to take what is said hear by the haters with a pinch of salt,i have not posted all that happened as so much was going on and I wanted to post FACTS,but it will be up on the sites soon

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Kitty

He really is a twit

I mean I do agree with him when he says we get involved in wars that don't concern us really, but to say that if we had a different foreign policy then the second world war could have been avoided is just crazy! How would that have stopped an evil lunatic like Hitler? I swear he's on another planet

I fully agree with you, I dont belive this country should fight in certain wars, only just wars like world war 2. Ben shouldnt of said that, surely someone smart like him would off know britain was always going to get involved because germany was doing everything to invade every european counrty.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

can someone unbiased give brief outline of what he actually said rather than everyone jumpin on the bandwagon

if he said somethin like the jews had it comin, then obviously he is out of line

but if he said he thinks Britain should avoid going to war, this is good idea

country would be lot better off if we didnt keep going to war to fund the banks

He didn't say that he supports Nazism or that Hitler was a good guy or anything like that, basically he just thinks the second world war could have been avoided if our policies had been different, which is a flawed ideology but he wasn't saying anything terribly controversial, just that he thinks we should prioritise and not jump into every country's war that comes along. That doesn't really apply when it comes to the 2nd World War though so he's making a twit of himself again.

[spitfire]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

can someone unbiased give brief outline of what he actually said rather than everyone jumpin on the bandwagon

if he said somethin like the jews had it comin, then obviously he is out of line

but if he said he thinks Britain should avoid going to war, this is good idea

country would be lot better off if we didnt keep going to war to fund the banks

It's nice to know that you appreciate the sacrifice many made,for you!

[SocietyIsRuined]

Originally Posted by Kitty

He didn't say that he supports Nazism or that Hitler was a good guy or anything like that, basically he just thinks the second world war could have been avoided if our policies had been different, which is a flawed ideology but he wasn't saying anything terribly controversial, just that he thinks we should prioritise and not jump into every country's war that comes along. That doesn't really apply when it comes to the 2nd World War though so he's making a twit of himself again.

Thanks for that. Nothing to do with defending Nazis at all.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

this reminds me of those t shirts peter had made for lois when she was running for mayor

vote for lois.
unless your queer.
no wait,
even if your queer.
no jews though.
okay jews.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

I fully agree with you, I dont belive this country should fight in certain wars, only just wars like world war 2. Ben shouldnt of said that, surely someone smart like him would off know britain was always going to get involved because germany was doing everything to invade every european counrty.

Agreed 100%. I mean if our country is being attacked or threatened then of course we have to defend ourselves (or rather the army should do, that's what they sign up for bless them) but wars like Iraq and Afghanistan I don't think we have any place in, and we shouldn't allow ourselves to be so pressured by America to follow their lead.

I honestly don't think Ben thinks before he speaks sometimes tbh.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Kitty

Agreed 100%. I mean if our country is being attacked or threatened then of course we have to defend ourselves (or rather the army should do, that's what they sign up for bless them) but wars like Iraq and Afghanistan I don't think we have any place in, and we shouldn't allow ourselves to be so pressured by America to follow their lead.

I honestly don't think Ben thinks before he speaks sometimes tbh.

Agreed

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Kitty

Agreed 100%. I mean if our country is being attacked or threatened then of course we have to defend ourselves (or rather the army should do, that's what they sign up for bless them) but wars like Iraq and Afghanistan I don't think we have any place in, and we shouldn't allow ourselves to be so pressured by America to follow their lead.

I honestly don't think Ben thinks before he speaks sometimes tbh.

agreed 100% well said...