[MojoNixon]

Now i understand why Steve was getting angry.

"30's blah blah blah" now that's stupid rubbish Ben.

[erchie]

utter ass hole is our Ben !

[Lee.]

Is he really? I can't really believe that! What exactly has he said? Is he actaully arguing a case for Nazism??

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by happyland

Is he really? I can't really believe that! What exactly has he said? Is he actaully arguing a case for Nazism??

Not directly, but he says that war could been avoid back then 30's, with different foreign policy.

Like Hitler could been different then....

[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

Not directly, but he says that war could been avoid back then 30's, with different foreign policy.

Like Hitler could been different then....

One thing that History has shown us is that Hitler and his gang had a gameplan which involved the extermination of so called inferior races. The fact that the majority of Brits are from the Germanic races, doesnt mean we would of not been put under his spotlight sooner or later, but the fact is as a peoples, the Brits have always fought or disagreed with the Nazi indoctrines, whether by the Hitlers, Pol Pots etc..

[starry]

Originally Posted by StGeorge

One thing that History has shown us is that Hitler and his gang had a gameplan which involved the extermination of so called inferior races. The fact that the majority of Brits are from the Germanic races, doesnt mean we would of not been put under his spotlight sooner or later, but the fact is as a peoples, the Brits have always fought or disagreed with the Nazi indoctrines, whether by the Hitlers, Pol Pots etc..

All ethnic nationalisms including places like Israel, Ruanda, Sudan, Bosnia/Serbia, South Africa have been very unpleasant and generally not supported in a place like Britain where people live together with equal rights.

[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by starry

All ethnic nationalisms including places like Israel, Ruanda, Sudan, Bosnia/Serbia, South Africa have been very unpleasant and generally not supported in a place like Britain where people live together with equal rights.

Exactly, we do have our own little hitlers etc but generally our peoples stick up for the underdog and fight against those that oppress others.

[Chels]

I know :| he said Britain shouldn't have got involved in the war! ****ing idiot!!

[spitfire]

Originally Posted by Chels

I know :| he said Britain shouldn't have got involved in the war! ****ing idiot!!

There are millions of reasons why we go/went to war,Ben.
Here are two of them.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWJyjAYyF8E

[MissKittyFantastico]

Ben is explaining himself now, saying that he just doesn't agree with us getting involved in wars all the time, though how he can say that he doesn't think we should have been involved in the Second World War baffles me lol.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Kitty

Ben is explaining himself now, saying that he just doesn't agree with us getting involved in wars all the time, though how he can say that he doesn't think we should have been involved in the Second World War baffles me lol.

you have summed it up Michelle

So if he loves this country so much, he rather we let Nazis come here and take us over and us speaking all german?

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

you have summed it up Michelle

So if he loves this country so much, he rather we let Nazis come here and take us over and us speaking all german?

He really is a twit

I mean I do agree with him when he says we get involved in wars that don't concern us really, but to say that if we had a different foreign policy then the second world war could have been avoided is just crazy! How would that have stopped an evil lunatic like Hitler? I swear he's on another planet

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Kitty

He really is a twit

I mean I do agree with him when he says we get involved in wars that don't concern us really, but to say that if we had a different foreign policy then the second world war could have been avoided is just crazy! How would that have stopped an evil lunatic like Hitler? I swear he's on another planet

I fully agree with you, I dont belive this country should fight in certain wars, only just wars like world war 2. Ben shouldnt of said that, surely someone smart like him would off know britain was always going to get involved because germany was doing everything to invade every european counrty.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

I fully agree with you, I dont belive this country should fight in certain wars, only just wars like world war 2. Ben shouldnt of said that, surely someone smart like him would off know britain was always going to get involved because germany was doing everything to invade every european counrty.

Agreed 100%. I mean if our country is being attacked or threatened then of course we have to defend ourselves (or rather the army should do, that's what they sign up for bless them) but wars like Iraq and Afghanistan I don't think we have any place in, and we shouldn't allow ourselves to be so pressured by America to follow their lead.

I honestly don't think Ben thinks before he speaks sometimes tbh.

[Fuzzylogic]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

you have summed it up Michelle

So if he loves this country so much, he rather we let Nazis come here and take us over and us speaking all german?

haha, I love it when people say "If they germans had won he'd all be speaking German."

Hang on, we won the war, but the Germans are not all speaking English.

[-Sue-]

OMG if that what was really said I am lost for words...I knew Ben was an opinionated pompus vile human being but that is beyond a joke...

[SocietyIsRuined]

Of all the things that are taboo to talk about on television, Ben breaks another one. Don't agree with him but he's entitled to have his views. That's why I like him, you know it's him and he's not playing a moralistic puppet for the sake of the public.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

can someone unbiased give brief outline of what he actually said rather than everyone jumpin on the bandwagon

if he said somethin like the jews had it comin, then obviously he is out of line

but if he said he thinks Britain should avoid going to war, this is good idea

country would be lot better off if we didnt keep going to war to fund the banks

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

can someone unbiased give brief outline of what he actually said rather than everyone jumpin on the bandwagon

if he said somethin like the jews had it comin, then obviously he is out of line

but if he said he thinks Britain should avoid going to war, this is good idea

country would be lot better off if we didnt keep going to war to fund the banks

Yeah.. that's what I want to know too.. It's kind of a misleading thread title if Ben has been saying that he thinks Britain should stay out of conflict!
I kinda thought he had been bigging up Adolf and goosestepping about the house!

[lynz]

Originally Posted by happyland

yeah.. That's what i want to know too.. It's kind of a misleading thread title if ben has been saying that he thinks britain should stay out of conflict!
I kinda thought he had been bigging up adolf and goosestepping about the house!

psml

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by happyland

Yeah.. that's what I want to know too.. It's kind of a misleading thread title if Ben has been saying that he thinks Britain should stay out of conflict!
I kinda thought he had been bigging up Adolf and goosestepping about the house!

Exaggeration is the name of the game on this forum - some members do nothing but exaggerate - just a tactic to discredit hms they don't like!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

can someone unbiased give brief outline of what he actually said rather than everyone jumpin on the bandwagon

if he said somethin like the jews had it comin, then obviously he is out of line

but if he said he thinks Britain should avoid going to war, this is good idea

country would be lot better off if we didnt keep going to war to fund the banks

he said he doesn't think we should get involved in the wars all the time,I'm sure more will come out during the day of what he ACTUALLY said and meant,in the meantime best to take what is said hear by the haters with a pinch of salt,i have not posted all that happened as so much was going on and I wanted to post FACTS,but it will be up on the sites soon

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

can someone unbiased give brief outline of what he actually said rather than everyone jumpin on the bandwagon

if he said somethin like the jews had it comin, then obviously he is out of line

but if he said he thinks Britain should avoid going to war, this is good idea

country would be lot better off if we didnt keep going to war to fund the banks

He didn't say that he supports Nazism or that Hitler was a good guy or anything like that, basically he just thinks the second world war could have been avoided if our policies had been different, which is a flawed ideology but he wasn't saying anything terribly controversial, just that he thinks we should prioritise and not jump into every country's war that comes along. That doesn't really apply when it comes to the 2nd World War though so he's making a twit of himself again.

[SocietyIsRuined]

Originally Posted by Kitty

He didn't say that he supports Nazism or that Hitler was a good guy or anything like that, basically he just thinks the second world war could have been avoided if our policies had been different, which is a flawed ideology but he wasn't saying anything terribly controversial, just that he thinks we should prioritise and not jump into every country's war that comes along. That doesn't really apply when it comes to the 2nd World War though so he's making a twit of himself again.

Thanks for that. Nothing to do with defending Nazis at all.

[spitfire]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

can someone unbiased give brief outline of what he actually said rather than everyone jumpin on the bandwagon

if he said somethin like the jews had it comin, then obviously he is out of line

but if he said he thinks Britain should avoid going to war, this is good idea

country would be lot better off if we didnt keep going to war to fund the banks

It's nice to know that you appreciate the sacrifice many made,for you!