[BJ]

cost £30 onLF to Mario

[flamingGalah!]

He's a con man, simple as...

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by BJ

cost £30 onLF to Mario

No discount for mates then, or does that include an excess for the Save and Replace task.

[BlackOrWhite]

And...?

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by BlackOrWhite

And...?

They don't even get any booze!

[fingers]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

They don't even get any booze!

If they wanna get high they get to sniff St. Dave's Bible.

[bigbrothermfer]

im going

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by fingers

If they wanna get high they get to sniff St. Dave's Bible.

Nah he doesnt let anyone else handle that. He does let people sniff his monk's costume though.

Its a filthy habit.

[BJ]

So you have to pay to worship with Dave's crew

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by BJ

So you have to pay to worship with Dave's crew

Oh yes. He charges a similar amount to cure cancer too apparently...

[fingers]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Oh yes. He charges a similar amount to cure cancer too apparently...

Wonder what it costs to regrow a leg, or do you get a discount if you need two?

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by fingers

Wonder what it costs to regrow a leg, or do you get a discount if you need two?

£30 per leg or £50 per pair by all accounts...

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by BJ

cost £30 onLF to Mario

That would just barely cover the costs of venue rental, equipment rentals and throw in transportation and refreshments etc.

If there was any left over to pay David's salary he would most likely look at the time he invested and find out he made far less than minimum wage 'per hour' spent on it.

The problem isn't 30 quid.
The problem is inducing youth into trance-states, psychosomatic aberrations and learning that 'being high/drunk' is some kind of ideal state of mind for a Christian.

[fivecougz]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

That would just barely cover the costs of venue rental, equipment rentals and throw in transportation and refreshments etc.

If there was any left over to pay David's salary he would most likely look at the time he invested and find out he made far less than minimum wage 'per hour' spent on it.

The problem isn't 30 quid.
The problem is inducing youth into trance-states, psychosomatic aberrations and learning that 'being high/drunk' is some kind of ideal state of mind for a Christian.

There were about 700 people at his last event.
700 x $30 = $21,000, a ****load more than enough to cover venue hire and lighting.

Everyone puts bread on the table by various means - most of us have a job. Dave just chooses to rip off the gullible, that's all.

[Late for the Party]

Originally Posted by bigbrothermfer

im going

You should come too mine its 5quid cheaper

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by fivecougz

There were about 700 people at his last event.
700 x $30 = $21,000, a ****load more than enough to cover venue hire and lighting.

(beside the point but I could just about promise you 700 did not pay 30 but lets say they did...)

I don't know but why are you so certain that is an ****load more than enough to cover venue, lighting etc?

The next thing is to find out what's left after expenses and see how that is worked out.
For example:
Lets say they are left with 15 after expenses. This goes into the Ministry (it does go to Davids pocket).
That gets divided out into all kinds of expenses even to a bookkeeper other staff, whatever business expenses they have,
they do things like buy new printers for the ministry, pay for posters.

Keep in mind they have to use this to start promoting, planning their next event.

After that a certain % goes to paying their Pastor (David) who (for the sake of argument) may get paid 1,600 a month.
He gets his monthly salary of 1,600 and they may be quite happy they have enough to pay him for the next 6 months.

This is just a typical example of these things. One thing I am certain about is that it DOES NOT work that David is like a Club Owner/Promoter who simply gets 'the profits'.
Doesn't work like that at all.

Keep in mind, if a Club Promoter did this nobody would call the Promoter a 'Con Man'.
They would say 'Yeah.. guy put on a concert and made x-amount'.

But in Davids case it would not work that way. If we found out it did - he would surely be in the Diary Room talking to some tax people right now heh.

Everyone puts bread on the table by various means - most of us have a job. Dave just chooses to rip off the gullible, that's all.

They are not gullible. They love attending these things, believe in it with as much passion as David and are happy to chip in their 30,
and,
for them the 30 is WELL WORTH the event. They are delighted they paid ONLY 30 for a concert they loved.

Put it this way:
What was the last concert you attended?
Did you get 'ripped off'?
Are you 'gullible'?
Was the band/singer a con-man?

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by fivecougz

there were about 700 people at his last event.
700 x $30 = $21,000, a ****load more than enough to cover venue hire and lighting.

Everyone puts bread on the table by various means - most of us have a job. Dave just chooses to rip off the gullible, that's all.

^^^^
this

[Late for the Party]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

(beside the point but I could just about promise you 700 did not pay 30 but lets say they did...)

I don't know but why are you so certain that is an ****load more than enough to cover venue, lighting etc?

The next thing is to find out what's left after expenses and see how that is worked out.
For example:
Lets say they are left with 15 after expenses. This goes into the Ministry (it does go to Davids pocket).
That gets divided out into all kinds of expenses even to a bookkeeper other staff, whatever business expenses they have,
they do things like buy new printers for the ministry, pay for posters.

Keep in mind they have to use this to start promoting, planning their next event.

After that a certain % goes to paying their Pastor (David) who (for the sake of argument) may get paid 1,600 a month.
He gets his monthly salary of 1,600 and they may be quite happy they have enough to pay him for the next 6 months.

This is just a typical example of these things. One thing I am certain about is that it DOES NOT work that David is like a Club Owner/Promoter who simply gets 'the profits'.
Doesn't work like that at all.

Keep in mind, if a Club Promoter did this nobody would call the Promoter a 'Con Man'.
They would say 'Yeah.. guy put on a concert and made x-amount'.

But in Davids case it would not work that way. If we found out it did - he would surely be in the Diary Room talking to some tax people right now heh.



They are not gullible. They love attending these things, believe in it with as much passion as David and are happy to chip in their 30,
and,
for them the 30 is WELL WORTH the event. They are delighted they paid ONLY 30 for a concert they loved.

Put it this way:
What was the last concert you attended?
Did you get 'ripped off'?
Are you 'gullible'?
Was the band/singer a con-man?

Will you come to my sloshfest and say all that

[fivecougz]

ElProximo, you're a Dave fan (tho from the way you're defending him and explaining his gigs maybe I should i say disciple?) - there is nothing I can say that would change your mind.

But just look at his videos on youtube ... even ones where he's being pushed around in a wheelchair ... I rest my case.

And to answer your question - no, the singer at the last concert I went to was not a con-man, nor did I ever mention the word con-man ... but I'm glad you can see that that's what Dave is - he weighs glory in dollars.

[flamingGalah!]

Last concert I went to the band were not claiming to be able to cure cancer or grow amputees new limbs... nor were they acting like mentally disturbed buffoons pretending they were drunk either... though I did see Oasis once...

[fizzy]

what a con. But could it be to cover costs, and still not be for profit?

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by fizzy

what a con. But could it be to cover costs, and still not be for profit?

I doubt a village hall & DJ would cost that much, plus bottles of Tesco Value lemonade (no alcohol allowed apparently)... probably costs no more than £1000 at the most for one of these "parties"... He'd make a pretty penny no doubt... enough anyway to support his wife & 4 kids & fund frequent trips around the world...

[mikopale]

Many born-again Christians don't beleive in sloshfests. A lot of born again Christians believe you can get drunk on the Lord, but it doesn't happen that often, and it usually happens in time of Worship, and the person isn't usually in control. I don't know how Dave gets drunk all the time. Sloshfests is more of a cult that has been derived from born-again Christianity, they go there to get drunk off the Lord, whereas most born-again Christians hardly get drunk and it is out of there control and can happen naturally during Worship.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by mikopale

Many born-again Christians don't beleive in sloshfests. A lot of born again Christians believe you can get drunk on the Lord, but it doesn't happen that often, and it usually happens in time of Worship, and the person isn't usually in control. I don't know how Dave gets drunk all the time. Sloshfests is more of a cult that has been derived from born-again Christianity, they go there to get drunk off the Lord, whereas most born-again Christians hardly get drunk and it is out of there control and can happen naturally during Worship.

Indeed. Dave is equally offensive to both Christians & non believers alike...

[Shasown]

Heres a daft question then, how come there is no one come out of the woodwork and criticised him, saying he charged them for a sloshfest and it was crap, or he charged me saying he would pray and cure my mums cancer and she has since died?

Or some outraged parent claiming their child has joined his cult and wont speak to them etc.?

Lets face it he has had enough accusations against him on this and other forums in the last 8 weeks, and still no one has come forward to condemn him girst hand.