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Sunday · 05-08-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chels

Bullsh!t, how come Scottish HMs have always done crap then????

Cuz the Scots wont pay for the text message vote??

Mac Hiavellian · 05-08-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kore

Not the case with Wales really, Imogen, Helen, Glyn have come from wales, but they havnt been bad representations of us really, neither has Dave been Bad.

They just havnt been MY Favourite. The fact I'm Welsh doesnt really come into it. lol

I think the criticism in the past was before BB7 and that there was a big lack of Welsh HMs in BBs1-6. Helen in BB2, Lisa in BB4, Maggot in CBB4 but who else? Whereas the Scots had a few more but weren't overly keen on Lynne, Federico, Cameron, Jason etc

At the end of the day not everyone will have the exact same opinion on HMs as other people, it is all personal preference, as shown in the votes "Who do YOU want to evict/win?" But BB also deals with social gorups and that's why viewers can relate to those social groups e.g. Derek was gay, black and a tory so some viewers could relate to some of his aspects, but might compalin "He's too camp. Not all gay men are like that" or "He's too bitchy. He makes black people look bad."

I'm English and tbh I can't stand a lot of the English HMs lol.

Claymores · 05-08-2010, 01:48 PM

I have to slightly agree with LT for a change - during BB7 I was told on c4 forum and I quote "we're all behind Glyn because he's Welsh boyo. All the people at my factory are voting him to win"

LaLaLand · 05-08-2010, 01:49 PM

Nooo Blaenau where Glyn's from is seen a Mid from up here! I guess you could class it as North.. but it's not NORTH North.

Throw someone from the backstreets of Rhyl in.. :O

DrunkerThanMoses · 05-08-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Claymores

I have to slightly agree with LT for a change - during BB7 I was told on c4 forum and I quote "we're all behind Glyn because he's Welsh boyo. All the people at my factory are voting him to win"

Um... I hated glyn so much..... so much I got banned from this website with my old account

Raph · 05-08-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Claymores

I have to slightly agree with LT for a change - during BB7 I was told on c4 forum and I quote "we're all behind Glyn because he's Welsh boyo. All the people at my factory are voting him to win"

I think Glyn was an exeption, because he was a very patriotic person, and was playing for his country. First time Welsh had been spoken in there, his Welsh swimsuit, how he spent hours of the day speaking about Wales - in that case, I can say a housemate did do Wales proud

Claymores · 05-08-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunday

Cuz the Scots wont pay for the text message vote??

Long time since you voted then I see...........text voting went out with the dinosaurs in about BB7

Peter Plunker · 05-08-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Lol strange. Maybe its a sign that jsut cwmbran people do well in big brother... 2nd and 1st.... damn I should of been in it. I would of won of course

Torfaen people

Chels · 05-08-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunday

Cuz the Scots wont pay for the text message vote??

There isn't one anymore is there?

Raph · 05-08-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

Torfaen people

Rachel was born in Torfaen, but she's originally from Cwmbran, and lives there. Helen is also from Cwmbran. It's the Cwmbranis

Sunday · 05-08-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Claymores

Long time since you voted then I see...........text voting went out with the dinosaurs in about BB7

Well he was talking past tense, he asked why they have never won.

Mac Hiavellian · 05-08-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chels

Not really, if there actually was a nationality vote (and there clearly isn't) then those HMs would have a fck load of votes and pretty much make the final everytime. And there's always the idiot who goes 'Rachel won BB9 because of the Welsh' which seriously pisses me off because I couldn't stand the bint.

Nationality means nothing in BB

I never said the Welsh should vote for Dave to win on the basis that he's Welsh or that this has been the case in the past. What I said was The Scottish and Welsh, along with gay people, black people, Asian people, work class, upper class, any social group have complaiend in the past that they are porr representations of their specific groups. If BB was purely a Nationality vote then it'd be like Eurovision, which it's not

DrunkerThanMoses · 05-08-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

Torfaen people

That means hes going to come 3rd this year.

Helen - 2nd
Rcahel - 1st
Dave - 3rd

Claymores · 05-08-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph

I think Glyn was an exeption, because he was a very patriotic person, and was playing for his country. First time Welsh had been spoken in there, his Welsh swimsuit, how he spent hours of the day speaking about Wales - in that case, I can say a housemate did do Wales proud

I'm winding you slightly Raph - it's hard to be patriotic behind Dave. as it was hard for me to acknowlege Cameron was Scottish! Or other 'scottsh' entrants who were complete fails

Chels · 05-08-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac Hiavellian

I never said the Welsh should vote for Dave to win on the basis that he's Welsh or that this has been the case in the past. What I said was The Scottish and Welsh, along with gay people, black people, Asian people, work class, upper class, any social group have complaiend in the past that they are porr representations of their specific groups. If BB was purely a Nationality vote then it'd be like Eurovision, which it's not

Ye but tbf we don't care where Dave's from and whether he gives a good representation of 'us' as nobody is going to be exactly like him and he's not representing us for that reason.

DrunkerThanMoses · 05-08-2010, 01:59 PM

So basically were saying people from cwmbran (me, raph, helen and rachel) are lovely people, while everyone else in wales are horrible people (chels

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Chels · 05-08-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

That means hes going to come 3rd this year.

Helen - 2nd
Rcahel - 1st
Dave - 3rd

Yay I'd be happy if he came 3rd

He's my fav cos I like him as a person, not cos he's from 20 mins up the road. It's pretty awesome that he supports City as well though!

Claymores · 05-08-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunday

Well he was talking past tense, he asked why they have never won.

Cameron did - but Scots are usually dislikeable idiots/wierdos that they put on. Karly lives 3 doors away from my aunt, and I would ignore her

Chels · 05-08-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

So basically were saying people from cwmbran (me, raph, helen and rachel) are lovely people, while everyone else in wales are horrible people (chels

)

WE ARE YOUR CAPITAL, WE ARE YOUR CAPITAL! l

daniel-lewis-1985 · 05-08-2010, 02:03 PM

Blaenau is north wales mate

Claymores · 05-08-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

So basically were saying people from cwmbran (me, raph, helen and rachel) are lovely people, while everyone else in wales are horrible people (chels

)

But you're still coming to Lee's spag-bol fest..............I've already booked the bouncy castle

Mac Hiavellian · 05-08-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chels

Ye but tbf we don't care where Dave's from and whether he gives a good representation of 'us' as nobody is going to be exactly like him and he's not representing us for that reason.

Fine, that's a good and healthy look at it but in the past some posters on here, on DS or people I've met have been disgruntled about this. It's these sort of people that view HMs as stereotypes like how in BB9 Rachel was the representative for Wales, Dennis the token for gays, Mohammed for Muslims and so on but in reality HMs are real people, the things they say or do might be edited in certian ways but they're also unscripted