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Razmataz · 19-01-2006, 05:32 PM

Simple again.
Do you think a life for a life should be brought back.
If someone commits murder.
Should they lose there life.
corporal punishment.

Razmataz · 19-01-2006, 05:33 PM

i believe in it.
i do think people who take peoples lifes
'with intent' should lose there life.

Romantic Old Bird · 19-01-2006, 05:40 PM

No, definitely not. We don't have the right to take this action.

Firstly, we can never be really sure of circumstances.

Secondly, we are teaching exactly who a lesson? Crimes of passion are spontaneous and directed at someone specific.

Murder by order is carried out by utterly ruthless people who are unlikely to be deterred by any threat of reciprocal death.

Others are driven to kill by fear and desperation - again unlikely to be deterred.

There is absolutely no evidence that the death penalty reduces unlawful killings.

Lastly, if someone did carry out a horrendous crime, I think a life-long incarceration is a far greater punishment than a few weeks or fear and then oblivion.

Razmataz · 19-01-2006, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Romantic Old Bird
No, definitely not. We don't have the right to take this action.

Firstly, we can never be really sure of circumstances.

Secondly, we are teaching exactly who a lesson? Crimes of passion are spontaneous and directed at someone specific.

Murder by order is carried out by utterly ruthless people who are unlikely to be deterred by any threat of reciprocal death.

Others are driven to kill by fear and desperation - again unlikely to be deterred.

There is absolutely no evidence that the death penalty reduces unlawful killings.

Lastly, if someone did carry out a horrendous crime, I think a life-long incarceration is a far greater punishment than a few weeks or fear and then oblivion.

Unlike me to agree with a view different to my own..
but i do. mr romantic.
Maybe a much more slower and more calulated effort at keeping it from happening.

~Kizwiz~ · 19-01-2006, 05:46 PM

But what happens if someone is proved guilty of murder and then (as has happened in the past) they are proven not guilty years down the line?

If you believe in corporal punishment then you've just taken an innocent person life!!

I dont think a life should be taken for a life. The person who has murdered should serve a lifetime in prison!

Razmataz · 19-01-2006, 05:47 PM

And a lifetime should be ETERNITY not 25 years.
Life is life not a certain amount.

EugeneSully · 19-01-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Gladders_16
And a lifetime should be ETERNITY not 25 years.
Life is life not a certain amount.

Noooo please not an eternity!!! Not right now anyway!

Sunny_01 · 19-01-2006, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Gladders_16
And a lifetime should be ETERNITY not 25 years.
Life is life not a certain amount.

The only thing is very few actually even serve 25 years - they only serve about 15 years. My hubbys aunt was brutually murdered and 16 years after the murderer was released he did exactly the same again! so I agree with LIFE imprisonment!

~Kizwiz~ · 19-01-2006, 06:16 PM

I totally agree that life should mean life!

EugeneSully · 19-01-2006, 06:21 PM

don't bring death sentence to TIBB hehe cause I won't last long by the way things are going right now

Dan_ · 19-01-2006, 06:45 PM

No, you end up just being as bad as the murderer in my view. It's just such a backwards way of dealing with it and in the past mistakes were made and innocent people were killed.

AndyJK · 19-01-2006, 07:33 PM

Yes I strongly believe in the death penalty. Even more so now DNA that can prove beyond any doubt someone's guilt.

Here's food for thought. The victims' families of Myra Hindley and Ian Brady dedicated their entire lives to keep Hindley behind bars because of do-gooders like Lord Longford campaigning for her release. It premeturely ended the life of the Mother of murder victim Lesley Anne Downey who had to listen to her daughter's last words and pleas being played in court as she was drowned. How would you feel if your loved one ended up with a similar fate? You would be happy to see the murderer sent away to a nice comfortable prison - not to mention people campaigning to get them released?

Now we have Ian Huntley possibly being released in 20 years time and other murderers facing similar early releases. There is no closure for the poor victims families. While we continue our lives their torment continues.

Furthermore there is nothing to say in the bible there is anything morally wrong with capital punishment. There are verses which are ambigious and open to more than interprutation ie in the ten commandments it says "thou shall not kill" but Hebrews have translated it as "though shall not commit murder". So don't feel a moral obligation to keep wicked people alive because its good.

Finally if people say that the death penalty makes us uncivilised, we had capital punishment in the 1950s when crime was virtually non-existent and regarded as a halcyon days of good community spirit. As my Gran often reminds me those were the days you could leave your door open.

I rest my case.

Siouxsie · 19-01-2006, 08:07 PM

yes end of

Razmataz · 19-01-2006, 08:12 PM

Nice to see ive brought some Positive argument onto the forum rather than bickering.

Legend · 20-01-2006, 03:48 AM

Yep! If you take a life then your life should be took.

Why should u be able to live ur life once u get out of jail (as most murderers do) when u have took someone elses away?

Bring it back IMO!

Fangz · 20-01-2006, 05:50 AM

No, I don't think it's right to take another's life under any circumstances. Murder approved by the government is still murder.

Kore · 20-01-2006, 07:30 AM

yes it should. (only for the cases the person is 100% found guilty)

itll decrease the amount in prison and the amount of people that will offend. save us all a great deal of taxmoney.

Razmataz · 20-01-2006, 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by Kore
yes it should. (only for the cases the person is 100% found guilty)

itll decrease the amount in prison and the amount of people that will offend. save us all a great deal of taxmoney.

Very well put Kore.
Now we have DNA testing and all that
Its easier to prove a person is guilty.

Ruth · 20-01-2006, 09:29 AM

I don't believe we should bring the death penalty back. It is not effective anyway. In America, the most violent states have the death penalty (probably because they are the most violent states), yet the rate of violent crimes has not gone down in those states - if the death penalty was a deterrant (sp), then surely the crime rates would have gone down?

I do believe however that a life sentence should MEAN a life sentence.