[MassiveTruck]

Let's cut to the chase.

Nadia is an angry, aggressive, monstrous, pathetic, idiotic, foolish, nasty, disgusting, whiny, spoilt, selfish, bitter etc etc person.

Marco lied. Marco is fishing for publicity. He was not chosen for the show. He wasn't even looked at and this is because of his behaviour during BB5 which led to the problems on "fight night". He was left out - is anybody surprised he was left out looking at how he hasn't changed since then.

Nadia, did, fail, the psych test. That is a definite. She should not have been on the show.

What Brian said is hearsay. We don't know if that happened. Brian might very well be making things up but even if he isn't we are looking at Coolio from the US where they are not as idiotic, to use a word, as the Big Brother audience and would call anybody who steps forward to have their genitals removed with a boob job, pointless... it doesn't need the commercialised push it requires over there. It's seen as a sex fetish where Coolio is from anyway - different cultures, different perspectives.

Why don't you ask yourself why Nadia was laughing when he left? Why don't you ask yourself why everything was fine after she left? Or... why not ask yourself why Nadia had other targets and victims after she left? What did Ulrika do to her for screaming like a escaped lunatic? Why is it just people you have someone to blame?

OH NO! COOLIO SAID SOMETHING!!

OH NO! DAVINA SAID SOMETHING!

Why not? What Nadia said? Why not... consider how politicised the lot of you are that you can't see how manipulated you are not only by the commercialisation around you but also the politics? If you want hi-brow is this a difficult area to step in because it will take the fun away from the *******ing Witch Hunt??

So, Coolio left mutually. That's what we were told and that is what happened. Nadia probably fancied him and didn't like how she came in thinking she would win with her second chance at glory and the other girls were getting all the attention from Coolio. For some bizarre reason were supposed to believe that Coolio was some fantasy for the protest groups and we should string him up against a tree so the protesters with their s**t lives have something to do.

So... am I surprised by the reaction? No.

Why? Well it's Big Brother and as somebody else said, it's not Newsnight. You, the audience, all of you, are watching a zoo, a charade, a bunch of exhibitionist attention seekers. You watched Nadia and you chose to judge her and look at her. No offence to anybody but Nadia is still a man and that is because she needs hormones, make up, surgery at extensive life threatening levels to keep this up. Nothing proves otherwise and if it did, the extent to which she has to do this proves that is hardly the case because if you are somebody why need thousands upon thousands of pounds every year to keep it up?

Then again, if you think you're so brilliant and fantastic as a BB viewer then go to University, do a Masters in bio-medical subject and just expect to be laughed at when you think you've got something "conclusive" or "absolute"... if you haven't realised after completing the course that all this Nadia business was just hyped up nonsense from Endemol.

What else is funny? This is why you watch Big Brother. You watch it for incidents like this. As somebody else said on a thread, you don't watch Newsnight for this. Of course Newsnight has it's bias but there is an expression of balance, an expression of inconclusiveness so it makes you laugh when people on a low-brow laugh a minute (at the freaks) show think they have all the answers

In a few weeks time you will all forget this. Some of you will be watching Strictly Come Dancing, some of you will be watching X Factor, the rest of you when you realise you don't get any attention or smothering from this incident will run away and try and get attention for something else.

This is not a serious incident.

Of course because this takes the gloss away from the witch hunt nobody will think otherwise from this because a couple of the biggest attention seekers on Big Brother if not the world are running around screaming when nobody important give a s**t because they've got actual important things to think about!!

[Shasown]

A few valid points there MT.

I notice the "lets support the LGBT without knowing all the facts" brigade leapt straight into the witchhunt against Coolio without even considering what may have happened.

Supposing Coolio had been told Nadia was transgender, he may have been a little curious to know if she was pre-op or post op transgender. If he had of asked her either in those terms or in his more down to earth way - "do you still have your penis?". What would have been Nadias reaction, judging by some of her other outbursts, something akin to light blue touch paper and retire to a safe distance.

Coolio would simply have received abuse from Nadia probably with no answer, so he then asked one or two of the girls if they had seen any signs of a penis. He is American, they have a different culture, are more outspoken and less PC than most Brits.

Then throw in the fact that Nadia expected not only to be treated as some sort of prima donna she also expected to win and boost whatever flagging career she has. Any sort of upsets will be used by her and her shrieking sidekick Marco to gain maximum publicity for themselves, regardless of the truth.

After all if she is shown how wrong she is, she can always fall back on the usual "me no speaky the language too good" excuse she has used in the past.

[robb]

Apart from Chantelle, all the others hated Coolio as well. He isn't innocent. He was aggressive, made threats and tried to control the kitchen.

[blackparade]

Coolio was a ***** the first time and ***** the second time. I would have punched him if he touched my shoes. Nadia is losing it a bit though, she was mean and aggresive on BB Come Dine with Me as well.

[_Seth]

So you don't think being elbowed, taunted to the point of breaking down and had your stuff messed around with doesn't justify any anger? You're an idiot.

Even IF Nadia was actually the way she was inaccurately portrayed, that still wouldn't justify any boos or eggs thrown at her car.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Phlip

So you don't think being elbowed, taunted to the point of breaking down and had your stuff messed around with doesn't justify any anger? You're an idiot.

Even IF Nadia was actually the way she was inaccurately portrayed, that still wouldn't justify any boos or eggs thrown at her car.

But we don't have any proof that the elbowing etc happened, just Marco sabbas word.

[_Seth]

What about other stuff that never got shown? As I say, do you really think Coolio would get chucked out for what was shown when Sam didn't even when he's done worse than what was shown of Coolio?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Phlip

What about other stuff that never got shown? As I say, do you really think Coolio would get chucked out for what was shown when Sam didn't even when he's done worse than what was shown of Coolio?

I think if he elbowed her aggressively that he would have been thrown out yes. I don't like Coolio at all but I'm sorry I'm not going to take Marco "drama Queen" Sabbas word as gospel for anything.

[Chuckyegg]

They should both be hurtled into obscurity as soon as possible.

So LGBT is now a brigade??

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I think if he elbowed her aggressively that he would have been thrown out yes. I don't like Coolio at all but I'm sorry I'm not going to take Marco "drama Queen" Sabbas word as gospel for anything.

But it makes perfect sense. As I said, why would Coolio get chucked out for less than what Sam did?

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Phlip

But it makes perfect sense. As I said, why would Coolio get chucked out for less than what Sam did?

He didnt get chucked out, he was asked if he would modify his behaviour(it wasnt specified what behaviour), he stated that because of the reaction he had got out of nadia, he would continue and if that wasnt what BB wanted then it would be better if he left. BB obliged.

A couple of important differences between Coolio and Sam, when confronted by the "unacceptable behaviour" chat Sam stated he would tone down his behaviour. he also accepted what he did could be very offensive to some. Coolio didnt he stated he saw nothing wrong with his behaviour and he would continue it. And Sam didnt have Nadia throwing the prima strop giving out him or me ultimatums.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by Phlip

So you don't think being elbowed, taunted to the point of breaking down and had your stuff messed around with doesn't justify any anger? You're an idiot.

Even IF Nadia was actually the way she was inaccurately portrayed, that still wouldn't justify any boos or eggs thrown at her car.

I don't believe any of that happened. All a load of made up nonsense because Nadia is lodging in a house in London.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by Phlip

But it makes perfect sense. As I said, why would Coolio get chucked out for less than what Sam did?

Because Nadia failed the psych test and is a vulnerable adult with mental health problems. They had to do what she said otherwise the whole "why let a fragile person on the show" would have opened up for the final Big Brother.

Coolio would have got paid double to leave.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Phlip

But it makes perfect sense. As I said, why would Coolio get chucked out for less than what Sam did?

was going to say more or less what Shasown did below. It's very simple really that bit we did actually see, BB didn't just kick Coolio out they asked him to change his behaviour towards nadia and he refused, simple, they weren't left with any other option.

Originally Posted by Shasown

He didnt get chucked out, he was asked if he would modify his behaviour(it wasnt specified what behaviour), he stated that because of the reaction he had got out of nadia, he would continue and if that wasnt what BB wanted then it would be better if he left. BB obliged.

A couple of important differences between Coolio and Sam, when confronted by the "unacceptable behaviour" chat Sam stated he would tone down his behaviour. he also accepted what he did could be very offensive to some. Coolio didnt he stated he saw nothing wrong with his behaviour and he would continue it. And Sam didnt have Nadia throwing the prima strop giving out him or me ultimatums.

[flamingGalah!]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Once again at OP...

BB has already confirmed that what Nadia said took place...

[Keith_Can]

I agree totally big truck. The allegations don't add up. Coolio might have been talkin some smack and I never personally liked him as a HM but from what I've seen Nadia was the one who went ballistic spitting and wiping on his gear. Much worse behaviour in my opinion. How can one defend that?

As far as the "boyish good looks" comment from Davina she hit the nail spot on.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Once again at OP...

BB has already confirmed that what Nadia said took place...

Have they really?

I dont suppose you could provide a link to back up that claim? Somehow I dont think so. more of your usual flaming?

[GiRTh]

Terry, I was just about to ask FG the same thing. It seems Makosi confirmed it in a dodgy thread on DS but not BB.

LINK

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Terry, I was just about to ask FG the same thing. It seems Makosi confirmed it in a dodgy thread on DS but not BB.

LINK

Yeah, I know Makosi said that coolio had asked about Nadia having a penis, again Makosi is a friend of Nadia, and not the most reliable source in the world.

Knowing how Nadia reacts, can you really see Channel4/Endemol trying to get away with the fair and balanced portrayal comment as a defence, when if what she says is true, they have portrayed Coolio as a prankster and the victim of his supposed bullying as a tempermental bully?

I mean there is judicious editing and then there is a complete reversal of reality.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Yeah, I know Makosi said that coolio had asked about Nadia having a penis, again Makosi is a friend of Nadia, and not the most reliable source in the world.

Knowing how Nadia reacts, can you really see Channel4/Endemol trying to get away with the fair and balanced portrayal comment as a defence, when if what she says is true, they have portrayed Coolio as a prankster and the victim of his supposed bullying as a tempermental bully?

I mean there is judicious editing and then there is a complete reversal of reality.

i actually remember him asking her that, but it came across to me that it was out of interest and not taking the piss out of her.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

i actually remember him asking her that, but it came across to me that it was out of interest and not taking the piss out of her.

Which wouldnt really be out of the ordinary if he had already asked Nadia if she was pre or post op and she hadnt answered him except to angrily snap about her privacy and his aggression etc, would it?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Yeah, I know Makosi said that coolio had asked about Nadia having a penis, again Makosi is a friend of Nadia, and not the most reliable source in the world.

Knowing how Nadia reacts, can you really see Channel4/Endemol trying to get away with the fair and balanced portrayal comment as a defence, when if what she says is true, they have portrayed Coolio as a prankster and the victim of his supposed bullying as a tempermental bully?

I mean there is judicious editing and then there is a complete reversal of reality.

Exactly. If they'd shown the footage then there would have been no argument and everyone outside the house would, in some way, understand Nadias reaction. By not showing anything they give us the impression that they've got something to hide.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Which wouldnt really be out of the ordinary if he had already asked Nadia if she was pre or post op and she hadnt answered him except to angrily snap about her privacy and his aggression etc, would it?

yeah, i mean Victor asked alot of squirmish questions too like asking Ulrika about Sven and makosi about her sex life but neither of them made an issue of it which they could have done

[M X]

Oh yeah, it's totally fine to be transphobic.

WTF.

[Zippy]

Coolio was obviously provoking her and mocking her. Then he took her property to taunt her more.

But he's innocent?

Yeah good luck with that! And please quit acting like youre an expert on everything...its cringey. Now you speak for all Americans on how they view sex change operations? Er, no you do not!

And Nadia fancied him? WTF? You just throw all kinds of random crap into your posts! Im pretty sure he's not her type or any other womans with taste. Truth is, Nadia has her guard up against macho dickheads like him and Jason(BB5). Probably the type of grunting chauvinists that have plagued her life and given her the most stress.

Nadia is far from perfect and certainly has a temper. But Coolio was the antagonist in the house. He started it, she finished it.