[Benjamin]

11 October 2010


7 July London bombings inquests to begin


Survivors of the 7 July London bombings will be among those giving evidence The inquests for the 52 people killed by four suicide bombers in the 7 July 2005 London attacks are due to start.

The hearings were delayed because of criminal investigations and questions over what the inquests should cover.

Lady Justice Hallett, the coroner, will preside over five months of hearings without a jury into the attacks on three Underground trains and a bus.

She will look at whether MI5 could have stopped the bombers - but many victims' families still want a public inquiry.


In addition to the 52 people killed, some 700 other people were injured, many of them severely and permanently, when the four al-Qaeda-backed suicide bombers, all British men, detonated their devices.

The hearings at the Royal Courts of Justice in London are expected to last until at least March next year and will look into the precise details of the 2005 attacks.

Witnesses will include survivors of the attacks on underground trains near Aldgate, Edgware Road and Russell Square Tube stations, and on a double-decker bus in Tavistock Square, near King's Cross.

Members of the emergency services who tried to save lives will also give evidence.

The inquests are expected to open with the hearings being shown footage and pictures of aftermath of the attacks that have never been seen before.


7 July: Key facts

Four bombs:

Three on underground trains
One on bus

Victims:

26 at Russell Square
13 on bus at Tavistock Place
7 at Aldgate
6 at Edgware Road


Suicide bombers:

Hasib Hussain
Mohammad Sidique Khan
Germaine Lindsay
Shehzad Tanweer

The images are being used to set out accurately what happened - but are expected to have been heavily edited to not show any of the victims.

In a ruling earlier this year, Lady Justice Hallett said she would also look into the backgrounds of the bombers - and what the security services knew about them.

Two years after the attacks, it emerged that MI5 had come across the ringleader and one of the other bombers during their investigations into another extremist cell.

Some families believe the security services and police had enough information to work out that Mohammad Sidique Khan, the ringleader, was a threat. Security officials insist they only had fragments of information and could not have predicted what happened.

There have been two official reports into the bombings by the Intelligence and Security Committee in Parliament, both of which said that MI5 should not be blamed.

But Graham Foulkes, father of 22-year-old David who was killed by the Edgware Road bomb, said he and other families were angry that the security service was still attempting to keep information out of the public domain.


Lady Justice Hallett: Appeal Court judge turned coroner "By every kind of moral standard that you're brought up with, that's wrong," he said.

"You're told, if you make a mistake, you hold up your hands. My view is that their incompetence allowed Mohammad Sidique Khan to get through."

Many of the relatives of victims are represented in the inquests and will be able to question witnesses.

Ros Morley, whose husband Colin died following the attack at Edgware Road, said: "Innocent citizens in the UK and worldwide need to know that they are protected now and in the future.

"I hope it is possible to gain something positive out of a deeply tragic event in which 52 innocent people lost their lives."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11511461

[arista]

Yes shocking one Relative
is Angry at the MI5 who first told one thing.
Then later it came out
that they were tracking the Leader Bomber Khan.


These 4 bombers were like the 9/11 crew
they went ahead with Large backpacks


Also khan had said before the event
that the UK must get out of Iraq or else
on a Video.

Of course by day time he was a simple supply teacher
not many knew he was the Leader
of that Deadly London Suicide Bombers

[arista]

One man that was on the Edgware Road train and was saved by his cases
on London Local ITV1 News
can recal Khan was with another darker skinned man.
That is the first time he has said this in public.

[lostalex]

These inquests are stupid. We all know what happened. and we all know how to better prepare against them, but it would be considered racist, so we cannot.

So instead of blaming who we all know is the problem, because we are all enlightened people, we will blame ourselves instead of who we all know is the real threat and who is really responsible.


Because of our politically correct society, we will end up blaming ourselves.

[arista]

Early this morning,
PM Starmer and Mayor Khan
Laid flowers for the 7 July 2005
London Terrorist Attack 7/7



[There are extraordinary
secret surveillance images -
now largely forgotten - that in their
own grainy and mysterious way,
tell the story of missed opportunities
that maybe, just maybe,
could have stopped the horrific suicide attacks
that took place in London 20 years ago.
They are images of the ringleader of the
7/7 bombings - first caught on camera at an
al-Qaeda-associated training camp in
the Lake District in 2001.

Two more images from 2004 show him - name
and intentions then unknown - meeting a different cell
of bomb plotters outside London and being followed
by an MI5 team as he made his way back to Leeds.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c14e77je72mo

[Livia]

What's the inquest going to achieve? They'll say that the security services missed several opportunities to stop it. Of course, the security services have to be successful every time, the terrorists have to be successful once. I'm sure it won't look into how many terrorists we've imported since then because no one knows. And when something like this happens again - and it will happen again - we can all be upset and outraged and wonder how it could have happened... again.

Starmer and Khan turned up this morning because they were due for a photoshoot, because it was expected. They laid flowers that someone else had bought. I remember Starmer turning up after the Southport stabbings with a beautiful floral arrangement that someone had provided and that he laid. I'd have had more respect for him - for all politicians - if they turned up with flowers they'd bought themselves from a petrol garage.

[Crimson Dynamo]

No one "lost their lives" you hideous apologist, they were murdered by
homegrown Islamic terrorists and its continued on and on. 45,000
Undocumented mostly young men have illegally entered the UK this year alone
and they have been spread all around our communities under your watch.

[arista]

[No one "lost their lives" you hideous apologist, they were murdered by
homegrown Islamic terrorists]

Very True LT

[Livia]

We stood together, all right. We also stood together after a Muslim terrorist murdered all those kids as an Ariana Grande concert. We never learn.

[bots]

When Starmer puts out that message, you know something is coming down the track that government are aware of and we are not

[arista]

Former PM Tony Blair
was in charge back in 7/7

A clip of him talking on a Radio 4 Series
"State of Terror"
was on Politics Live BBC2HD Early.


Blair said we are a lot safer now
But their ideology still exists

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

Former PM Tony Blair
was in charge back in 7/7

A clip of him talking on a Radio 4 Series
"State of Terror"
was on Politics Live BBC2HD Early.


Blair said we are a lot safer now
But their ideology still exists

I suppose the question is, do we feel safer?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

I suppose the question is, do we feel safer?

I think we do.

7/7 took so many young lives
just going to work
early in the morning.



St. Paul's Cathedral.
20 Years On.
now live on all news
52 people died from those evil 4 suicide bombers
back in 2005

[bots]

We are never safe from terrorism so it's an outright lie to say we are safer now

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

I think we do.

7/7 took so many young lives
just going to work
early in the morning.



St. Paul's Cathedral.
20 Years On.
now live on all news
52 people died from those evil 4 suicide bombers
back in 2005

Well, I'm glad you feel safe. I don't. Not at all...

[Beso]

Me and my boy would have been right in the middle of that had we not had an extra 15 mins in bed as it was the last day of our holidays..

[bots]

Originally Posted by Beso

Me and my boy would have been right in the middle of that had we not had an extra 15 mins in bed as it was the last day of our holidays..

i got on the tube on the same line a few mins before it happened, i got into the office just as the explosions went off

[Beso]

Originally Posted by bots

i got on the tube on the same line a few mins before it happened, i got into the office just as the explosions went off

Crazy to think...we were just arriving at Earls court as everyone was being evacuated...

Took us 6 hours to get a taxi over to the airport.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

No one "lost their lives" you hideous apologist, they were murdered by
homegrown Islamic terrorists and its continued on and on. 45,000
Undocumented mostly young men have illegally entered the UK this year alone
and they have been spread all around our communities under your watch.

oh look who also forgot why these atrocities occurred? who would have guessed

[bots]

i don't know who these people are trying to kid. The country has never been more divided than it is currently

[arista]

Originally Posted by bots

We are never safe from terrorism so it's an outright lie to say we are safer now

Former PM Tony Blair
has stated it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bots

i don't know who these people are trying to kid. The country has never been more divided than it is currently

Sadly, that is true.

Political Parties Reform UK
And soon the Jeremy Corbyn New Left Wing Political Party


Will Split with some Labour MPs
Jumping to Corbyn.

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

Former PM Tony Blair
has stated it.

a man noted for always telling the truth

[arista]

Originally Posted by bots

a man noted for always telling the truth

Sadly True

[Nicky91]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killin...les_de_Menezes

never forget, what those amateur law enforcement did afterwards, this idiotic blunder mistaking this poor electrician from brazil as a possible terrorist