[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=250_1287356801


hard to argue against this point

[arista]

Yes the First Speaker
is Right
Saudi Arabia did 9/11

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes the First Speaker
is Right
Saudi Arabia did 9/11

and yet no one knows in america?

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and yet no one knows in america?

True

[Tom4784]

He had a very true point, Islam's been exploited by the media to create this image of huge threat in order to scare the sheep into supporting a war that's done nothing but cost innocent lives.

People won't buy into it though as they prefer a reason to hate.

[BB_Eye]

Does Saudi Arabia have any redeeming qualities?

[Angus]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Does Saudi Arabia have any redeeming qualities?

No, None.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Does Saudi Arabia have any redeeming qualities?

Oil thus money thus no one wants to criticise them.

[Niall]

What do you expect. O'Reiley is Fox News. To them anything that isn't Christian, caucasian and heterosexual is evil and deserves to have war declared on them.

[Niall]

But yeah I have to agree with that video. The media has blown Islamic Extremism so far out of proportion in the past decade. Most people will probably feel that all Muslims are terrorists which most definitely isn't the case. Its ridiculous how people act towards Muslims like that. Sure Islam has its downsides, the human rights issues, how it treats women and its views on homosexuality, but wasn't the Catholic Church like that at one time? I think everyone should try to forget what has happened with Islamic terrorists in the past few years as I sincerely believe it will do us all a favour. Another thing I think is that eventually Islam will grow out of its slightly more medieval practises like it's extreme stance on homosexuality. These things just take time imo.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=250_1287356801


hard to argue against this point

Its easy to argue against it. A vast majority of Muslims in the Arab Muslim world AGREED with the 9/11 attacks and believed the US deserved it and that it did not conflict with the teaching of Islam.

Now, we can agree that while most Muslims back, condone and support killing Kafirs (especially Jews) but yes, of course only so many are actual 'Mujaheddin' or the actual religious warriors who do the actual killing,
but,
While there are other sects/orgs/rebel groups all over the world who do similar things we have a MASSIVE DISPROPORTION when it comes to Islam.
MASSIVE:
It is constant, ongoing and happens 'across the board'.
-For the last 10 years almost every terror attack or attempted terror attack has been Muslims doing it for Islam and in the name of Allah for Islam.
- Same for Canada
- Same for USA
- Same for Indonesia,
Philippines,
Russian
In fact, take a general picture of the Arab Muslim world there in the middle-east and all around that circle the attached countries probably have serious ongoing mass-murders, terror attacks and death and wars with.. you guessed it - Muslim Mujeheddin
Guess who in China?
Now guess who where horrific wars, slaughters, terrorist attacks are in Africa.. now up to Israel (need I mention),
now,
Even Spain has had massive attacks, death and.....

So what is the biggest concern?
Well, the biggest concern is for the 30% of Muslims who do not agree with terrorism and what their Koran tells them Muslims ought to be doing in terrorizing people.
They are at increased risk of horrible fates when one of these days China decides its had enough and decides to stomp the hell out of the Eastern end of the Muslim world.
Then Russian finally has enough and decides to rampage a brutal 'exile' of Muslims out of the 'Stans',
meanwhile, Europe might finally grow some baby balls and decide it's time to make Jordan, Lebanon and a few others 'non-Muslim' again,
and,
Then the Christian/whatever the hell they are people in Africa decide to expel Islam from not just sub-saharan Africa but maybe ALL of Africa and hell.. maybe even Egypt if they feel like it.

I'm not agreeing with that either because I think it will be a horrific destruction of the Muslim Arab world,
but,
What happens when the last 1000 terror attacks in a row are.. low and behold Muslims in the name of Allah.

btw.. one of the stupidest things people keep trying to say (still trying) is to pretend this is not because they are Muslim but it just so happens any religion can radicalize people.
No.
It is definitely because of Islam, the Koran and Muhammad,
but,
Sure, yes, there has been and can be people who (for examples) have warred 'in the name of Buddha' or fight in the name of 'Hinduism' or Christianity,
but,
the huge difference is that those people are called out as BS and caught out for having no actual scriptural or philosophical basis for it.
Muslims can.
They most definitely CAN show how that is exactly prescribed in their teachings and far from being 'in spite of their teachings' its something they SHOULD do if they claim to follow Islam.
That is a big difference.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Me!

What do you expect. O'Reiley is Fox News. To them anything that isn't Christian, caucasian and heterosexual is evil and deserves to have war declared on them.

like on cnn they just think anything thats morally right is evil.