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Vicky. · 09-11-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight

Cher looks like crap, but Katie looks amazing

patsylimerick · 10-11-2010, 02:18 AM

Having read cursorily through this thread, as a fully heterosexual female, my overhwhelming emotion is that I'm glad I'm old. I'm glad I was jumping around my nearest festival ground when Suzi Quatro and Debbie Harry were challenged only by the sultry temptation that was Chrissie Hynde. Three women who epitomised what style was - to buck all trends and vomit upon all comercialisation; to wear what the ******* you wanted, immerse yourself in rock'n'roll and own your physicality and sexuality. When I was growing up, Madonna was embarrassingly conformist. I really wish the Katie and Cher fans would arm themselves with just a smidgen of context before they start to spout drivel. These are oft seen phenomena, the Katie's and Cher's of this world.

Novo · 10-11-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick

Having read cursorily through this thread, as a fully heterosexual female, my overhwhelming emotion is that I'm glad I'm old. I'm glad I was jumping around my nearest festival ground when Suzi Quatro and Debbie Harry were challenged only by the sultry temptation that was Chrissie Hynde. Three women who epitomised what style was - to buck all trends and vomit upon all comercialisation; to wear what the ******* you wanted, immerse yourself in rock'n'roll and own your physicality and sexuality. When I was growing up, Madonna was embarrassingly conformist. I really wish the Katie and Cher fans would arm themselves with just a smidgen of context before they start to spout drivel. These are oft seen phenomena, the Katie's and Cher's of this world.

You have just spoken the biggest load of ****e i have ever heard

Congrats

patsylimerick · 10-11-2010, 09:40 AM

Novo, I won't quote, because there are far too many Katie pics assailing our retinas as it is. I just want to reciprocate as far as congratulations go - I've rarey seen such a trite, inarticulate and pointless riposte. Well done you!

fruit_cake · 10-11-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick

Having read cursorily through this thread, as a fully heterosexual female, my overhwhelming emotion is that I'm glad I'm old. I'm glad I was jumping around my nearest festival ground when Suzi Quatro and Debbie Harry were challenged only by the sultry temptation that was Chrissie Hynde. Three women who epitomised what style was - to buck all trends and vomit upon all comercialisation; to wear what the ******* you wanted, immerse yourself in rock'n'roll and own your physicality and sexuality. When I was growing up, Madonna was embarrassingly conformist. I really wish the Katie and Cher fans would arm themselves with just a smidgen of context before they start to spout drivel. These are oft seen phenomena, the Katie's and Cher's of this world.

I don't really get this?? there's nothing wrong with taking pride in your appearance, good for Cher and Katie I think!!! They aren't conforming to anything just having fun and being 16!!!

Novo · 10-11-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I don't really get this?? there's nothing wrong with taking pride in your appearance, good for Cher and Katie I think!!! They aren't conforming to anything just having fun and being 16!!!

Also i don't know what the **** Suzi Quatro and Debbie Harry have got to do with anything

patsylimerick · 10-11-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I don't really get this?? there's nothing wrong with taking pride in your appearance, good for Cher and Katie I think!!! They aren't conforming to anything just having fun and being 16!!!

Of course you're right. There's nothing at all wrong with it. The point of the post, perhaps too subtly posited, is that they are being hailed as visions of originality. They really - really - are not; by any considered musical comparison. I've said before that the two girls themselves are hardly responsible for this drivel. It's mostly the judges, and in particular Tweedy and Cowell. I do despair, however, when younger fans who clearly have a narrow scope of reference fall for this lazy posturing.

fruit_cake · 10-11-2010, 09:48 AM

tbh I don't even know who Debbie Harry and Suzie Quattro are but I'll google it now Patsy so I can see what you talking about...! are you a non-conformist then???? I thought Katie was quite brave wearing her strange eyelashes etc in Cheryl's house that time, I don't think she's at all a comformist, and seems to be having a lot of problems fitting in within the x-factor house... I mean there's a new story everyday!?

patsylimerick · 10-11-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fruit_cake

tbh I don't even know who Debbie Harry and Suzie Quattro are but I'll google it now Patsy so I can see what you talking about...! are you a non-conformist then????

If I've introduced someone new to Debbie and Suzi, my work is done

fruit_cake · 10-11-2010, 09:53 AM

Debbie Harry is blondie??? I know who she is they don't seem very non-conformist though maybe they were in their day I suppose.

Debbie Harry

Susie Quattro

frankly, Cher and Katie look more unconventional to me

patsylimerick · 10-11-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Debbie Harry is blondie??? I know who she is they don't seem very non-conformist though maybe they were in their day I suppose.

Debbie Harry

Susie Quattro

frankly, Cher and Katie look more unconventional to me

Oh thanks for the pics! Debbie isn't Blondie, she was the lead singer in a band called Blondie. And I never really said they were non-conformist or unconventional. Original was the word, I believe. They were and they are. I believe neither Cher nor Katie were, are or will ever be. But, hey, it's all a matter of personal taste.

fruit_cake · 10-11-2010, 10:09 AM

I don't think anyone can say Cher isn't original.. Like it or not..

Locke. · 10-11-2010, 10:11 AM

Smartest thing I have seen you say Fruit cake

nanaimo · 10-11-2010, 10:14 AM

Youtube video

Check these out aswell, this is how women should rock

Novo · 10-11-2010, 10:16 AM

Someone show this person who to post Youtube video's it seems He/She hasn't got a clue

patsylimerick · 10-11-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I don't think anyone can say Cher isn't original.. Like it or not..

mmmmm......salt'n'peppa, lisa lopes, that girl she copied from Youtube......I'm not the biggest rap fan in the world, but Cher makes me slightly nostalgic for the 1990s, right down to the badly drawn eyebrows and the harem pants......with the greatest of respect, she's only original if you're under 25.

nanaimo · 10-11-2010, 10:22 AM

never linked a you tube video before, we are not all as talented as you novo

Locke. · 10-11-2010, 10:22 AM

nanaimo who would you rather never sing again, Rebecca or Lilly Allen?

Novo · 10-11-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by nanaimo

never linked a you tube video before, we are not all as talented as you novo

I can see that..

patsylimerick · 10-11-2010, 10:25 AM

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never linked a you tube video before, we are not all as talented as you novo

I wouldn't know where to start, tbh, in linking a Youtube video. I rather prefer a nice turn of phrase, similar to yourself, I would say

nanaimo · 10-11-2010, 10:32 AM

ah figured it out

nanaimo · 10-11-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke.

nanaimo who would you rather never sing again, Rebecca or Lilly Allen?

thats an odd question, they are bought talented but lily would be what i would listen to more but you would never know when rebecca brings out her triple platinum debut album (while katies is in bargain bin) i might become addicted to hers