[arista]

Youtube video

Yes Pat.
You have it well put out.


Bang On Right.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

*cry*

[arista]

Originally Posted by Scott

*cry*

No you need to hear the real facts
it will not hurt you.

[InOne]

I love Pat, his vids always cheer me up and make me laugh

[Ninastar]

Is he you arista?

[BB_Eye]

This guy just wants to be an atheist Melanie Phillips. He even has the hair and glasses.

[Tom4784]

No one can claim to know what happens after death, even if the religions are wrong who can say there's not something beyond death? I don't believe in religion but I find the thought of an afterlife comforting.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nativitystar

Is he you arista?

No
but he is a Top Man
talks Utter Pure Sense.



Feel The Force .

[Tom4784]

He's a reason why Atheists get a bad rep, I found him to be arrogant and full of himself really. It's all opinions at the end of the day so it's hypocritical for him to do what he's slamming religion for doing.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

He's a reason why Atheists get a bad rep, I found him to be arrogant and full of himself really. It's all opinions at the end of the day so it's hypocritical for him to do what he's slamming religion for doing.

Sure
But he is Fighting Loads of God freaks

[Tom4784]

He's a hypocrite. I can't take anything he says seriously, he's just looking for a reaction.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

He's a hypocrite. I can't take anything he says seriously, he's just looking for a reaction.

Yes So am I.


There is no one like him.



Life In The City.

[Tom4784]

Atheists like that and the people they hate are just two sides of the same coin, both are basically screaming 'MY OPINION IS BETTER THEN YOURS' at each other. It's just utterly pointless.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

Atheists like that and the people they hate are just two sides of the same coin, both are basically screaming 'MY OPINION IS BETTER THEN YOURS' at each other. It's just utterly pointless.

No
You do not like the way he puts it.


I and millions of others do.



This needs to be said that way.

[Shaun]

Difference being atheists have facts to back them up, Dean.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

No
You do not like the way he puts it.


I and millions of others do.



This needs to be said that way.

He's just as bad as the people he slams, like I said Religion and Atheism are two sides of the same coin, especially the vocal ones.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Nutcracker

Difference being atheists have facts to back them up, Dean.

I don't think you can really disprove either side, the only people who can really vouch for either are dead.

I don't care for either, it's a difference of opinion dressed up as facts on both sides.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

I don't think you can really disprove either side, the only people who can really vouch for either are dead.

I don't care for either, it's a difference of opinion dressed up as facts on both sides.

I wouldn't call the big bang theory a difference of opinion

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Nutcracker

I wouldn't call the big bang theory a difference of opinion

Very true, but it hasnt been proven yet has it?

Incidentally seeing as matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed only transformed. Where did the energy and material come from to make the big bang? What started it?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Nutcracker

I wouldn't call the big bang theory a difference of opinion

I've always struggled to understand how it disproves anything other then some religions got that part wrong. I can't see why some Celestic being couldn't have triggered the Big Bang really. I think it's bonkers to think that the Big Bang didn't happen but I don't think it means there's nothing beyond this life because of it.

It's all about opinion really and it still comes down to two sides screaming 'YOU'RE WRONG' at each other.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I didn't really listen. There are plenty like him out there.

But..

the problem is not religion itself. The problem is people that read the scripts twist it into their own idea of what they think it means during their time, and the ones that use religion to justify their act of violence/injustice; catholic paedos, christian extremists, muslims extremists etc...

Why is it easier for people to worship satan, believe he exists yet they deny god's existence? surely one can't exist without the other?

Why did "atheists" begin to become atheists in the first place. Why does the idea that a person believes in something higher than man infuriate them so much? Is it fear? ego? can't they stomach the idea that something out there is bigger than them?



I understand why atheists feel they can be arrogant: advancing technology has many believing that with time and knowledge technology will explain everything, and for sure it is easier to prove that god doesn't exist than that he does because if he did then why all the pain and suffering in the world and everything else that the bible claims god is supposed to do but isn't, but i don't think the bible is as straight forward as that.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Nutcracker

Difference being atheists have facts to back them up, Dean.

how do they? and prezzie is right that his being a hypocrite by acting all smug.

and how the heck did the universe get made if there isnt a god or some sort of life form out there?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

misfits > god

[Stu]

It really bothers me when atheists at their most smug get described as being simply on the other side of the same coin. It's not even the same currency. Are my also just like religious fundamentalists because I scream at people 'YOUR WRONG! BATMAN IS NOT REAL!'.

What makes the existence of Batman less likely than the existence of god? But should I respect peoples opinion to believe in Batman anyway? Not really. Because I would be facilitating stupidity and ignorance. That's not being ignorant. Being like Pat Condell is not being ignorant. It's cutting straight to the point - no B.S. Why should we allow for something we on our own have entirely synthesized in our brains to dictate the rights of other human beings?

To have a poorly fabricated story only some believe in direct politics? Culture? To say in 2010 what people can and cannot do? Pat Condell is atheists very own rotweiler and by christ do atheists need a few rotweilers. Why roll over in the dirt and wait to see what happens with these cracker barrel idiots?

Originally Posted by jesus christ

how do they? and prezzie is right that his being a hypocrite by acting all smug.

and how the heck did the universe get made if there isnt a god or some sort of life form out there?

Why are you assuming the Universe was made? Is it really that absurd to suggest it has always existed in some form? Does there need, then, to be a reason?

A lot of scientists are now convinced the Big Bang was not the start but merely a bridging point. What about the multiverse? Or an endless cycle of 'breath in, breath out' Big Bang, expansion, contraction and Big Bang? Again and again and again? Why did the Universe have to 'start'? And why for a reason?

I understand why atheists feel they can be arrogant

Please. Atheists do believe there is something greater than them ... the Universe. We also see ourselves as just another animal. We are not the ones claiming to be the superior species who had divine intervention intercept their lives in order to give them a straight hotline to the man upstairs.

Knowing the facts about the scientific world does not make you smug. Maybe in the eyes of those who can't be arsed reading the research and would prefer to just continually allow for the existence of a higher cosmic order through endless roundabout questions like 'well how did this then become this?' because they just like the idea of it, sure. Even easily readable pop science books like Stephen Hawkings new tome 'The Grand Design' would be appealing to such god bothering, 'better connected' nitwits. A whopping large print, colour illustrated 200 page behemot of a book that is endlessly more fascinating than any 'holy book' and one that tackles the exact same questions only within the realms of a very, very reliable medium. The medium of science.

It's what religious people first turn to when they get sick. Saying prayers in a hospital.

[Sticks]

His rant seemed more aimed at certain organised religions and their command and control structures.

There are religious groupings that do not have hierarchical structures that he seems to be against.