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Toy Soldier · 08-08-2017, 07:26 PM

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At what point was Daenerys meant to train to actually be in battle? When she was sold as a slave bride? When she was wondering around in the red waste? When her dragons were kidnapped in quarth? When she was freeing slaves in slavers bay? When people in her city were being murdered by the son of the harpies?

of course she's going to use the dragons as her weapons

She should have been training with Khal Drogo - the strongest Dothraki warrior, and Daario Naharis - a highly skilled mercenary, instead of jumping their bones

. Did Arya try to mount Jaqen? No she did not!

Locke. · 09-08-2017, 06:01 AM

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Same can be said about how Dany was able to come on ground and try and fight that arrow out of Drogon without catching a single hit from any of the many survivors that were shown in the preview of next episode. Or why Jaime didn't just throw the Spear at her Chest as soon as she turned around instead of wanting to stab her with it and giving Drogon vital seconds to perk up.

Even Game of Thrones has plot armour to an extent. Bronn is the most likely person to try and create a meeting between Jaime and Tyrion or Dany's people as he has no reason to be in this war other than an easy payday and then the fact that he's been beyond the wall "for work" means there is a strong chance he can believe Jon if he asked Jaime for help in the Winter War.

I forgot about this, that's a good call. Would be great seeing Bronn in a battle against the walkers

reece(: · 09-08-2017, 06:30 AM

The sudden online hate for Dany because she went to battle is a MESS. She's dragged when she doesn't fight then again when she does. The reddit woman haters are doing the most too.

Isn't the vision not for one to take sides but to see every side's morals in a struggling situation?

Smithy · 09-08-2017, 10:48 AM

People coming for Dany for killing people IN BATTLE, when everyone seems to have forgotten CersiSIS blew up dozens of innocent people and it resulted in her son killing himself smh!!

Toy Soldier · 09-08-2017, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by reece(:

The sudden online hate for Dany because she went to battle is a MESS. She's dragged when she doesn't fight then again when she does. The reddit woman haters are doing the most too.

Isn't the vision not for one to take sides but to see every side's morals in a struggling situation?

There have been very few really twisted / evil characters. Pretty much just Joffrey and Ramsay Snow actually.

Cersei has always been power hungry and now is a bit broken due to the deaths of her children (which she doesn't realise / can't accept her part in).

Someone like Euron is also power hungry and a bit manic.

Dany has had good intentions but is now what I would call "power drunk" rather than power hungry... She thoroughly buys into her own legend.

So yeah I think basically the only evil (or rather, emotionless) enemy is the White Walkers... That is sort of the point. And what Jon is so frustrated by now. All of the petty / meaningless power struggles "for a throne" when he knows that the only hope they have is for every last human to stand together against the true evil.

Brother Leon · 09-08-2017, 12:19 PM

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I forgot about this, that's a good call. Would be great seeing Bronn in a battle against the walkers

Jon,Davos,Jaime,Bronn ,The Hound, Arya and Breanne all fighting the Winted War. What a dream team that would be.

Brother Leon · 09-08-2017, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(:

The sudden online hate for Dany because she went to battle is a MESS. She's dragged when she doesn't fight then again when she does. The reddit woman haters are doing the most too.

Isn't the vision not for one to take sides but to see every side's morals in a struggling situation?

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People coming for Dany for killing people IN BATTLE, when everyone seems to have forgotten CersiSIS blew up dozens of innocent people and it resulted in her son killing himself smh!!

I don't think that is the main reason as There is more online hate for the Lannisters and Bronn if anything. A lot of people can't believe someone would shoot a creature trying to burn them alive

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I think the Dany hate has started more due to the scenes with Jon and further highlighting how entitled and power thirsty she is in comparison to him. She may be those things, but it's not really her fault as anyone would look that way next to Jon tbf.

Locke. · 09-08-2017, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There have been very few really twisted / evil characters. Pretty much just Joffrey and Ramsay Snow actually.

Cersei has always been power hungry and now is a bit broken due to the deaths of her children (which she doesn't realise / can't accept her part in).

Someone like Euron is also power hungry and a bit manic.

Dany has had good intentions but is now what I would call "power drunk" rather than power hungry... She thoroughly buys into her own legend.

So yeah I think basically the only evil (or rather, emotionless) enemy is the White Walkers... That is sort of the point. And what Jon is so frustrated by now. All of the petty / meaningless power struggles "for a throne" when he knows that the only hope they have is for every last human to stand together against the true evil.

I think we'll be finding out otherwise quite soon

Brother Leon · 10-08-2017, 07:42 PM

When Dany finds out Jon's true parentage.

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Nicky91 · 13-08-2017, 08:31 AM

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When Dany finds out Jon's true parentage.

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Smithy · 13-08-2017, 08:49 AM

Youtube video

That editing though

Toy Soldier · 13-08-2017, 10:14 AM

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Yeah I can't figure out what her reaction will be... She's been all about the "true heir" being on the throne (thinking that was her) but Jon actually has a stronger claim because;

1. He is the son of the Mad King's first son so in the direct hereditary line.

2. Both of his parents are of noble house blood (Targ and Stark) so he wouldn't be "impure".

3. He has a penis and it's un-PC ye olde times.

So... Would Daenerys still crave the throne and therefore want rid of him... Or is she being honest when she talks about wanting the "true" Targaryen descendant to be on the throne and therefore back Jon?

Strictly Jake · 13-08-2017, 10:26 AM

Just caught up as I have been busy

That battle was amazingly filmed it was so tense I was obviously rooting for my queen to survive but I was a bit irritated by her Power mad attitude and I think it's alluding to the fact she may turn crazy like the mad king, still didn't want her to die though but I'm hoping Jamie isn't dead either not yet anyway

Good series so far I love that Sansa and arya are back together

Brother Leon · 13-08-2017, 11:09 AM

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Yeah I can't figure out what her reaction will be... She's been all about the "true heir" being on the throne (thinking that was her) but Jon actually has a stronger claim because;

1. He is the son of the Mad King's first son so in the direct hereditary line.

2. Both of his parents are of noble house blood (Targ and Stark) so he wouldn't be "impure".

3. He has a penis and it's un-PC ye olde times.

So... Would Daenerys still crave the throne and therefore want rid of him... Or is she being honest when she talks about wanting the "true" Targaryen descendant to be on the throne and therefore back Jon?

She's a little lucky that Jon doesn't really give a damn about the throne and would let her have it anyway. Would be nice to see her entitlement knocked down a peg or two though.

Toy Soldier · 13-08-2017, 11:24 AM

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She's a little lucky that Jon doesn't really give a damn about the throne and would let her have it anyway. Would be nice to see her entitlement knocked down a peg or two though.

I reckon that's probably what will happen tbh. She will respect the hereditary rule and say it's his for the taking, but he'll be like "Not interested luv, it's yours so long as The North is free".

Also, did everyone else think that the lannisters had lost all of the Tyrell gold in the attack?? I've spent all week believing this to be the case, but then I was watching a YouTube br a down of the episode and the guy said that we had learned that all of the gold made it successfully to King's Landing. So I rewatched that part of the episode and sure enough, Sam's dad tells Jaime that the "last of the gold is through the gates at King's Landing" when he first rides up

. So the lannister army (along with all of the food...) has burned but Cersei has the gold and will presumably now take the Iron Bank up on the offer of a new loan to hire mercenaries...

I had already watched the episode twice (leaked blurry crap and then full 1080p) and had totally missed this pretty important detail both times

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The episode breakdown guy was also claiming that it was Dickon who saved Jaime from the dragon when it was quite clearly Bronn...

Brother Leon · 13-08-2017, 01:12 PM

Yeah. The gold made it back. It was the food that was destroyed and whatever else they may have took from High Garden.

Off work tomorrow for once, which means I can watch it live at 2am for once. Great stuff.

Smithy · 13-08-2017, 01:17 PM

E6 will be this years "E9" saw some people saying they saved most of the budget for this episode, which after E4's battle has got me SHOOK

Nicky91 · 13-08-2017, 01:20 PM

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She's a little lucky that Jon doesn't really give a damn about the throne and would let her have it anyway. Would be nice to see her entitlement knocked down a peg or two though.

that would be like

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Locke. · 14-08-2017, 12:23 AM

Get her Jaime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also kinda scared for this episode tbh, horrible feeling it's the end of our Sandor for good this time

Locke. · 14-08-2017, 02:20 AM

Good episode, finally confirmation that Jon is an official Targaryen and has a better claim to the Throne that Daenerys does. Gilly of all the characters being the one to confirm it.

The group of characters that have gotten together to march beyond the Wall is great, I like all of them and it's a shame we'll probably lose at least half of them next week. Gendry using a war hammer like Robert used to is a really nice touch as well.

Next weeks promo is twice as long as usual and is like a movie trailer. Looks absolutely incredible

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Brother Leon · 14-08-2017, 02:22 AM

Nice set up episode. Next week is going to be absolutely insane. Dreading who we might lose. I think Tormund is a definite goner. Jon(obvious reasons) and The Hound(Clegane Bowl) are prObably the only safe ones.

Also. Lol at "Prince Ragga"