[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes they need Awards



Parents are to blame in some cases.

Indeed, hence the lack of role models.

Alright, I'm pulling no punches here. Usually it's the sorts of terrible parents who decide to have a kid before learning the most elementary techniques of raising one worth shit who will be the first to externalise and blame other things in the world for their kids turning into brats that hate them. Stories about the links between videogames and violent criminality are manufactured to cater to this 'poor me' complex in parents who despise their own children.

It's the same principle as the hysterical idiots who bought into the story about the MMR vaccine being linked to autism against all the contradictory evidence. Gosh forbid autism could be genetically inherited or that behaviourable problems linked to autism and ADD can be manageable in a supportive family environment and are not the product of some modern day demonic possession.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Mr XcX

I think you have missed the point.

He said what can 8 year olds do exposed to this kind of violence in video games and I was stating that it could cause other Jamie Bulgar killing.

Next?

Playing a flight simulator badly could have given terrorists the idea for 9/11, see I can match unrelated things to each other too. The fact is by even supporting this ridiculous theory you're willingly taking blame away from the perpetrators. You're essentially giving them an excuse and that's not acceptable in my book. Violent people cause violent crimes because of their own issues, a game can't make people do anything, If someone goes out and murders someone in cold blood then it was their choice to do so. Whether they played GTA4 or My Little Pony beforehand is meaningless. They chose to do it at the end of the day, the crime is on their conscience.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Mr XcX

Well FYI I got 12 A* - A grades for my GCSE.

Plus was in the TOP 2% of the Country for GCSE English Lang and Lit.

So the title remains the same.

and you're doing so well to be an ambassador to the language as well...

[Mr XcX]

Originally Posted by Shaun

and you're doing so well to be an ambassador to the language as well...

Thank you Shaun.

I am amazing I know.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by Mr XcX

I think you have missed the point.

He said what can 8 year olds do exposed to this kind of violence in video games and I was stating that it could cause other Jamie Bulgar killing.

Next?

Jamie Bulger's killers were not influenced by videogames. They were said to have watched the movie Childs Play 3. In any case, to assume that movie had anything to do with Jon Venables already disturbed mental state is naive in the extreme.

[Shaun]

Is it damp under that bridge of yours? <_<

[Mr XcX]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Playing a flight simulator badly could have given terrorists the idea for 9/11, see I can match unrelated things to each other too. The fact is by even supporting this ridiculous theory you're willingly taking blame away from the perpetrators. You're essentially giving them an excuse and that's not acceptable in my book. Violent people cause violent crimes because of their own issues, a game can't make people do anything, If someone goes out and murders someone in cold blood then it was their choice to do so. Whether they played GTA4 or My Little Pony beforehand is meaningless. They chose to do it at the end of the day, the crime is on their conscience.

Sorry, I disagree.

I believe these games do cause Violent Crimes.

[Mr XcX]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Jamie Bulger's killers were not influenced by videogames. They were said to have watched the movie Childs Play 3. In any case, to assume that movie had anything to do with Jon Venables already disturbed mental state is naive in the extreme.

I was saying that 8 year olds who watch these games could do another Jamie Bulgar.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Mr XcX

Sorry, I disagree.

I believe these games do cause Violent Crimes.

Well that's my argument soundly beaten, I might as well pack up and go home and the strength of that.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Mr XcX

I was saying that 8 year olds who watch these games could do another Jamie Bulgar.

The media doesn't give people the capacity for murder, if someone's going to torture a child to death then something's wrong with them, not an unrelated element.

Your trolling attempts are getting quite dull.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

GTA wasn't around then. Next?

No it was the video Chucky

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

*childs play

[Mr XcX]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The media doesn't give people the capacity for murder, if someone's going to torture a child to death then something's wrong with them, not an unrelated element.

Your trolling attempts are getting quite dull.

I am sorry Dezzy but just because I have an opinion you do not agree with you pull out the troll card.

Do you not agree that these Violent Games cause crimes?

Yes or No.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Mr XcX

I am sorry Dezzy but just because I have an opinion you do not agree with you pull out the troll card.

Do you not agree that these Violent Games cause crimes?

Yes or No.

No there is no proof of this.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

No it was the video Chucky

Again, if violent media could truly cause violent tendencies then we'd see a huge increase of violent crimes. Instead of looking for scapegoats when it coems to crime we should be looking at the psychology of criminal in question.

Complaining about a game or film does **** all for anybody in the long run.

[Mr XcX]

Dead Space IMO is acceptable for an 18 rated game because it is purely Fiction and is a real Science Fiction Thriller.

Where games like GTA puts the player in real life situations where the person can MURDER innocent civilians and face no consequences.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Mr XcX

I am sorry Dezzy but just because I have an opinion you do not agree with you pull out the troll card.

Do you not agree that these Violent Games cause crimes?

Yes or No.

I'm pulling out the troll card because you've got previous and you're making quite inflammatory remarks in this topic with no basis or reason. You're looking for a reaction.

I've already destroyed your points with my previous posts so I won't bother repeating myself.

[Mr XcX]

Originally Posted by Iceman

No there is no proof of this.

Well it is strangely coincidental that when GTA was released there was an increase in drive by shooting.

The games cause vulnerable people to commit crime.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Mr XcX

Dead Space IMO is acceptable for an 18 rated game because it is purely Fiction and is a real Science Fiction Thriller.

Where games like GTA puts the player in real life situations where the person can MURDER innocent civilians and face no consequences.

Because people can murder civilians in real life and face no conesquence right? GTA is far from realistic and you're a hypocrite for allowing one type of violence but not another.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Mr XcX

Well it is strangely coincidental that when GTA was released there was an increase in drive by shooting.

The games cause vulnerable people to commit crime.

Vulnerable people commit crime regardless, your whole argument is flawed.

[Mr XcX]

I will welcome everyones opinion.
IMO these games cause crime and pray's on the vulnerable to do so.

I can see that it is not 100% the game that does this but the parents also play a part too.

[Vicky.]

Video games do not 'cause' violent crimes.

If anything, they prevent them, because the people who would be out doing ****, get to do it without leaving the house. Eg. chavs and such

[Mr XcX]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Because people can murder civilians in real life and face no conesquence right? GTA is far from realistic and you're a hypocrite for allowing one type of violence but not another.

There is nothing wrong shooting evil Ailens with deformed limbs etc.

Where on GTA you can murder police officers etc.

I cannot see where my argument is flawed?

[Patrick]

I've been playing Grand Theft Auto since I was 5 Years old.

And I haven't stolen a car or killed someone.
Infact the only thing that's ever given me thoughts of killing is Scream.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by patrick

i've been playing grand theft auto since i was 5 years old.

And i haven't stolen a car or killed someone.
Infact the only thing that's ever given me thoughts of killing is scream.