[Zippy]

I know there are some who think Jedward brought viewers to the show but I say BS to that theory. It seems more likely to me they put many types of viewers off. Lets face it, their hardcore fanbase is not that big so who cares if they didnt watch? But when you think of the wide demograph who can't stand them it's potentially a huge number.

And to say it would have been dull without them is impossible to say because we would have had, hopefully, interesting personalities in their place. Plus a whole different dynamic. So its not that simple. Its obvious that ch5 had a plan here to have annoying toddlers against older HMs who would be irritated by their behaviour. So if you took them out of the equation it would have been a very different set up to begin with.

So yeah, do you think their inclusion helped or hindered the ratings?

VOTE NOW!

[Mystic Mock]

Of course they helped otherwise the show would not even have got 1 million viewers otherwise,because even the haters like to bitch about them.

[NXS]

To say that they hurt the ratings is a bit of a stretch considering that the viewing demographic are people that are typically more prone to be accepting of such novel characters. You know all of Jedwards fans were tuned in each and every night and those who hated them tuned in to see who they were going to piss off enough to get killed and/or removed from the house...

In terms of what I expected considering their age and reputation, I actually came out a lot warmer to the duo than I was when the show started. At first I thought they were just annoying twits but after seeing them for the long haul of the series I kinda get their schtick.

But to answer your question directly and simply; no -- they did NOT hurt the ratings.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by NXS

..and those who hated them tuned in to see who they were going to piss off enough to get killed and/or removed from the house...

you lost me at this nugget of wisdom. Those who hated them switched off or never switched on in the first place.

And please tell me just how many Jedward fanatics dedicated an hour a day to the show just because of their presence? Millions? Thousands? dozens? And would that include the 3000 that made the effort to buy their album?

[Stu]

I'm sure they brought some people in but it didn't make up for the amount of people who didn't bother with it. The attempt to bring in a younger audience with flashy editing and the likes of Childs and Jedward clearly did not work.

And that's what we will continue to see, sadly. And this was the traditionally higher rating celebrity version. Now we have about ten weeks of it with nobodies and still no live streaming. To save themselves the embarrassment I'd just go all out and make it an 11pm niche show full of booze, punishing tasks and a house full of Shabaz sorts.

I'm sure plenty of uberfans will disagree with me because they live and die by the ratings and get butthurt and paranoid at the idea that not everyone is watching their favourite show but I'd love it.

[Visage]

I didn't know anything of Jedward, I didn't watch the X Factor when they were contestants. I had only seen them sing in last years Big Brother. It was then that I realised how annoying they were and that they couldn't sing.

When I heard they were doing this year's CBB I was hesitant to watch based on what I had seen previously.

I never thought the day would come where I actually found them to be hilariously entertaining. I spent the first week watching CBB thinking what oddballs these two were. Then during the second week I really came to liking them. They were exactly what I like to see in the BB house. I like the madness and mayhem they caused, I laughed at how Paddy & Darryn would get worked up by them.

By the final week I was loving their childish behaviour, it was harmless and they were playing the game brilliantly for me.

I've still not really heard any of their music and I'm not interested in finding out, but I will say that they kept this year's show alive for me.

I can't answere the question on whether they helped or harmed the show, only from my own personal point of view.

[Shaun]

I sadly know more people who watched purely for them than switched off because of them. The people who were put off by Big Brother were done so long before they were even famous, so I doubt they'd have motivated many to do so.

[CaudleHalbard]

Probably for every one person who was put off by them there will have been about 10 who would have stopped watching, if it wasn't for Jedward and their antics.

[Zippy]

^can you please spoiler your sig picture?

you seem to be an adult male so why you seem so enamoured by that picture Im not quite sure. Not even gonna go there. But some of us find pale, pasty almost nude teens disturbing to look at when innocently posting on a forum.

[Niamh.]

Helped without a doubt. I definitely think more people tuned in because of them, then will have turned of because they don't like them.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Helped without a doubt. I definitely think more people tuned in because of them, then will have turned of because they don't like them.

well you're wrong, Miss thing

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zippy

well you're wrong, Miss thing

Prove it

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Prove it

if I prove it will you spoiler Candleholders(or whatever) sig pic? It's disturbing.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zippy

if I prove it will you spoiler Candleholders(or whatever) sig pic? It's disturbing.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Yeah it did help, but if im honest i dont know why, i really found them so irritating at points during the HL's.

[Babschap]

I was not happy when they went in, but they grew on me. People I knew watched just incase they really upset someone and it all kicked off! As I said, not a fan, but good entertainment.

[Roy Mars III]

I don't think they helped the ratings as much as Channel 5 thought they would.

[Sophiee]

helped! they were the highlight of the whole show!

[Doogle]

Definitely think the speculation (and then confirmation) that they were going in really helped the launch, but they definitely harmed the ratings in the long run.

[Pyramid*]

It drove me nuts watching them as it incensed me and I wanted the other housemates to get ripped into them....so in my case: I'd have switched off a lot sooner - it was only in the hope that the adults would give them hell, that kept me tuning him tbh.

[fruit_cake]

short term gain but long term loss IMO

[Patrick]

They helped - which is why they should of won.

You'll see tonight when BB12 doesn't manage 2 Million, that Jedward made the show.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Patrick

They helped - which is why they should of won.

You'll see tonight when BB12 doesn't manage 2 Million, that Jedward made the show.

well thats a bogus argument given that CBB always gets higher figures. And who said its down to Jedward?

But yeah, you're a Jedward fan so quelle surprise with your logic.

[Mystic Mock]

If Jedward were struggling to get this pile of **** up to 2 million,then just imagine any future Big Brother series where theres nobody as well known or talked about as Jedward?

The viewing figures will be frightening,especially if C5 keep this new style up aswell.

[keithafc]

I think it helped. Another thing is i seen so many comments from people when the whole Lucien Amy thing was going on and when it went to Jedward they said it was a sigh of relief and they enjoyed watching them.