[daniel-lewis-1985]

...They are not.

My evidence?...."Back to reality" the 2004 show that was panned and seen as an expensive flop for Channel 5 was getting 1.6 million viewers and sometimes more over a night.

Compare this to BB12's 1.4 million.

Im not trying to be negative but its a fact that BB12 my favourite show in the whole entire world is a complete and utter fail ratings wise which is a shame as i never thought BB would drop to this standard.

Im loving this year and it deserves to be hitting the 2 million mark atleast.

We do need live feed aswell (Even Back to reality had live streaming), not to bang on about this either but it really lets us connect with the housemates. Some nights i cant be arsed to stay up and watch because its been out of my mind all day but then i love it when its on. Probably what most other viewers feel like.

BB12 is failing and thats a fact.

[Beastie]

It's a shame it's failing because I am loving the series.

Desmond will just bring in the live feed once ratings drop even more!

[JohnnyBB]

Theres Absolutely Nothing we can do, The Highlight show have been great this tops bb11 allready, lets just sit and watch the ship sink as bad as it sounds thats all we can do.

[Locke.]

2004. Two. Thousand. And. Four. Seven whole years ago. Things have changed.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Locke.

2004. Two. Thousand. And. Four. Seven whole years ago. Things have changed.

Explain....

[AJ.]

Most people only had 5 channels back then.. wouldn't say it was a flop just yet, on the point of it though.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Explain....

Well Channel 5"s standards have dropped since then,and can you name one British show on C5 thats pulling in 1.4 million viewers?

[AJ.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

Well Channel 5"s standards have dropped since then,and can you name one British show on C5 thats pulling in 1.4 million viewers?

That SAS thing regular brings in 1.5+.

[RichardG]

Of course it is, Desmond said before CBB launched that he would be happy with around 2m viewers a night, BB12 is getting a lot less than that.

[Jordan.]

Expect even more budget cuts next year...

[Novo]

The contestants on Back to Reality were all former Reality TV contestants so they already had fanbases etc.. Craig Philips, Jade Goody, Nick Bateman, Uri Geller, Rik Waller were all on it just them alone would help the ratings massively it was a Celebrity reality TV show really

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

Well Channel 5"s standards have dropped since then,and can you name one British show on C5 thats pulling in 1.4 million viewers?

CSI brings in more and cricket sometimes hits over 2 million.

[AJ.]

Originally Posted by RichardG

Of course it is, Desmond said before CBB launched that he would be happy with around 2m viewers a night, BB12 is getting a lot less than that.

The officials vs the overnights have been gaining about 400K & contain around 400K 16-34 which earn alot from sponsors. Don't get me wrong though I hate this crap it's turned into.

[Marc]

Of course it's failing.

I don't see it lasting longer than 1 or 2 years.

[CharlieO]

Advertising deals and more viewers on Channel 5 as a whole is the only thing they care about. They are getting both.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by DeejayAJ

That SAS thing regular brings in 1.5+.

Ok now im worried.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Marc.

Of course it's failing.

I don't see it lasting longer than 1 or 2 years.

Makes me realise how clever Channel 4 were to end it.

[001steven]

I agree it is a flop, maybe good for C5 but for a show like BB its doing Terrible.. if this was on C4 and happening the Daily star would shove it on the front page calling it 'Ratings Disaster BB's SHOCKING new twist to pull in loosing viewers' but because the Star is owned by the guy who owns C5 and the Star we havent seen any Headlines like that

[AJ.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

ok now im worried.

football: Liverpool v steaua... (thu 1928) 2,827
emergency bikers (wed 2000) 1,647
nature shock: Deadly rat invasion (tue 2000) 1,526
royal navy caribbean patrol (mon 2103) 2,214
cowboy builders (wed 2000) 1,538

[fingers]

Originally Posted by 001steven

I agree it is a flop, maybe good for C5 but for a show like BB its doing Terrible.. if this was on C4 and happening the Daily star would shove it on the front page calling it 'Ratings Disaster BB's SHOCKING new twist to pull in loosing viewers' but because the Star is owned by the guy who owns C5 and the Star we havent seen any Headlines like that

But you did see that "Hollywood A List Star" on the front page!!

[R0B1S]

At the moment it's not THAT bad. What did you expect? Same ratings as they were on C4? That would be a miracle. For a 10 years old show and on C5 ratings are good - they are not great, but they still are not awful either.

Look from the bright side - contract has been signed for 2 years so another BB is pretty much guaranteed. They would not cancel it because huge money has already been payed for it.

[fingers]

I don't go by ratings, never could understand the obsession with them! I go by what I see and what I see at the moment is Channel 5's seeming deathwish for a programme that cost them millions!

[Ralja]

I think it's id going a great job. I remember that people would barely watch Channel 5 cause it was dull and pretty boring.

However, now that Desmond is in charge, I think the Channel has become much more watchable and entertaining. I just hope BB12 can pick up more viewers and more viewers very soon. Live feed seems to be the answer.

[David R]

Sadly I think this will be the only series on CH5 and after this is will be axed. They were expecting to at least get what CH4 got in their final series but the ratings have been appalling and I put it totally down to no live stream.

[Tom4784]

You can't compare ratings from years ago to now since there's things like Sky Plus and catch up services to account for which have hit ratings across the board. The standards for ratings just aren't the same now. BB is still one of C5's highest rated shows currently and as long as it stays above a million it's fine. Don't worry about ratings unless you know how to read them and what they mean.