[fruit_cake]

and they're probably right unless we get the whole house up. C'mon BB give us the chance to get rid of their entertainment free game plans

[Chuck]

As if Alex would be evicted if the whole house was up.

[Benjamin]

Alex wouldn't be evicted if the whole house was up. And why do people forget that the housmates do a lot more than we actually see? C5 use very selective editing of 24 hours footage to use for a 50 minute show..

[Roy Mars III]

Alex and Tom are the most boring ones in there, and don't deserve to get anywhere near the final. But they'll probably both make the final, and Alex will probably win

[Bojangles]

The HM's need to nominate them so they are put up for eviction.However they seem not to be interested in doing that.There lies the threat.

[alex_front2]

I think if Alex was up she might lose against Jay (split Geordie vote) and he's got a massive fanbase who realise they need to up their game in the wake of the Aaron/Faye victory.

Sadly, by playing the little lamb role NOBODY will dare nominate Alex (only Maisy continued to do so). Harry is very fond of her, Aaron sees through her airhead game plan but plays along with it, Tom and Louise genuinely see her as a good mate, Anton is only ever nice to Alex (I think he sees her as a substitute little sister who he misses and the only act of kindness he's done is with her), Jem loves playing along with her and Tom and of course Jay would never betray a fellow Geordie (he'd sooner nominate Anton than her). Alex is nomination-proof from here on to the final.

[rsefitpro2011]

Alex has the show won, unless she does something reallllly bad, and it would have to be really bad for her to not win now!

I disagree that Jays got a massive fan base, yes he had a lot cheering him on eviction night, but lets face it other than that I havent seen much evidence to suggest he has alot of support!

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

and they're probably right unless we get the whole house up. C'mon BB give us the chance to get rid of their entertainment free game plans

I welcome the whole house being up.

Alex coming first in the vote numbers would put a rocket up the arse of Jay, Aaron et al and be worth watching.

And Fruit, just because you don't find something entertaining does not mean other don't. Watching last night's show I personally didn't find anything 'entertaining' in the soundtracked fauxmances , but I get some folks lap that nonsense up.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by vesavius

And Fruit, just because you don't find something entertaining does not mean other don't. Watching last night's show I personally didn't find anything 'entertaining' in the soundtracked fauxmances , but I get some folks lap that nonsense up.

It's not that I don't like Alex, I think she's a ok, I could personally get on fine with her I think but I think she is also highly manipulative! C'mon this isn't someone who just appeared from out of the cabbage patch she's been wanting this for her whole life. She's the biggest game player of all imo

It's just find them both really boring , If Tom goes it might kick her into life when she finds herself alone in the house.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

It's not that I don't like Alex, I think she's a ok, I could personally get on fine with her I think but I think she is also highly manipulative! C'mon this isn't someone who just appeared from out of the cabbage patch she's been wanting this for her whole life. She's the biggest game player of all imo

It's just find them both really boring , If Tom goes it might kick her into life when she finds herself alone in the house.

1. It's a gameshow so gameplaying is fine.

2. Aaron and Faye are BOTH playing a game. They all are. No one can criticise one HM for doing so and pretend others arnt.

3. I don't agree she is 'highly manipulative' at all, especially against HMs like Aaron. Can you provide examples?

4. Yes, I get that you find her boring, you keep saying it, but others do not (me included). Others find her funny, charming, and great to watch in the little screen time the edit suite gives her (when the show isnt being drowned in the fauxmances).

5. Alex will never be alone in that house. Everyone loves her and she has bonded with everyone.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by vesavius

3. I don't agree she is 'highly manipulative' at all, especially against HMs like Aaron. Can you provide examples?

she's going around each housemate playing mother Teresa..pretending to be there for them when really she's thinking she's got the £100k cheque already cashed in the bank.

They all have gameplans true, but people like Arron and Faye aren't afraid to talk about their gameplans, and we can enjoy watching them succeed or fail, whereas Alex is a closed book who just pretends to be so innocent and sweet.

Wakey wakey, rise and SHINE..There are no innocent sweet people in the BB house. By it's very nature it attracts game players and attention *****s!!

in my view of course.

[alex_front2]

Alex adds very little to the show. She sits back and is nothing more than a passenger. If you are serious about winning £100K then that's exactly what you should do and that puts a bad message out to future contestants. I would never have picked her as a HM, I know not everyone can be a firebrand, but you can be entertaining without being a big mouth. I hated Dave BB11 last year, but his crazy phoney priest-hood ways got me talking at least.

Alex is the '7th' girl and the producers should have picked a 7th girl who was intelligent (sexy and good looking sure, but smart). There's little to differentiate Alex from Tashie and Louise. Why have a week 1 Boys v Girls brain task when ALL the girls are air heads led by Alex and hardly likely to win and most of the boys (bar Jay) are either quite smart of have set foot in a University (Harry runs businesses, Tom, Aaron and Mark are Uni drop outs at least, Anton well we all know how intelligent he is!). I hate how female housemates no longer contribute to humour other than being thick, 'oh let's all laugh at how dizzy and dumb Alex is' whilst the men come up with the one liners and pranks.

Alex's passivity really just irritates as she's coasting and I prefer evil people to dull do-nothing coasters who only win as they become a 'stop X ie Aaron' protest vote. In fact I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that i'd rather even Jay *aghast* won over alex. Yes, really.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

she's going around each housemate playing mother Teresa..pretending to be there for them when really she's thinking she's got the £100k cheque already cashed in the bank.

They all have gameplans true, but people like Arron and Faye aren't afraid to talk about their gameplans, and we can enjoy watching them succeed or fail, whereas Alex is a closed book who just pretends to be so innocent and sweet.

Wakey wakey, rise and SHINE..There are no innocent sweet people in the BB house. By it's very nature it attracts game players and attention *****s!!

in my view of course.

Wow, what a negative view of BB you have, and you call yourself a fan?

There are innocent people who go in there for the experience and just to have fun, but even if they do want to win, so, it's a game like you said, that's what you do in a game, try and win.

But just because Alex doesn't want to disclose everything to the housmates, like who she nominated, doesn't mean she is manipulative, it means she isn't comfortable to share that info.


And also, you hate Alex for being manipulative yet Rebeckah was your fave this year who was by far the most viscous and manipulative housemate. Go figure.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Wow, what a negative view of BB you have, and you call yourself a fan?

There are innocent people who go in there for the experience and just to have fun, but even if they do want to win, so, it's a game like you said, that's what you do in a game, try and win.

But just because Alex doesn't want to disclose everything to the housmates, like who she nominated, doesn't mean she is manipulative, it means she isn't comfortable to share that info.


And also, you hate Alex for being manipulative yet Rebeckah was your fave this year who was by far the most viscous and manipulative housemate. Go figure.

I don't hate Alex at all don't talk such nonsense.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

she's going around each housemate playing mother Teresa..pretending to be there for them when really she's thinking she's got the £100k cheque already cashed in the bank.

So one of your big issues with her is that she is popular and liked and others want to confide in her?

God forbid someone like THAT should win the prize eh?

(This is really your basis for her being 'manipulative'? And yet you don't think someone like Aaron is? ok... )

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

They all have gameplans true, but people like Arron and Faye aren't afraid to talk about their gameplans, and we can enjoy watching them succeed or fail, whereas Alex is a closed book who just pretends to be so innocent and sweet.

Faye repeatedly denies she is playing the game entirely. This makes her more of a liar then Alex.

Aaron repeatedly criticises others for playing the game, elevating himself to the top of an ivory tower, making him a hyppocrite.

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Wakey wakey, rise and SHINE..There are no innocent sweet people in the BB house. By it's very nature it attracts game players and attention *****s!!

Well, this is patronising...

What part of what I wrote here before suggests that she isnt playing to win? In fact, I wrote they ALL are playing to win.

Not really needed tbh Fruit.

[chuff me dizzy]

Alex will be in final no matter what happens Tom wont be IMO

[bbfan1991]

Alex is basically enjoying herself in there, fair play if she wants to reach the final because it's a gameshow for crying out loud.

I personally prefer to watch her over most of the others, oh God how all the forums will explode if she denies St Aaron winning the show.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by vesavius

So one of your big issues with her is that she is popular and liked and others want to confide in her?

God forbid someone like THAT should win the prize eh?

(This is really your basis for her being 'manipulative'? And yet you don't think someone like Aaron is? ok... )



Faye repeatedly denies she is playing the game entirely. This makes her more of a liar then Alex.

Aaron repeatedly criticises others for playing the game, elevating himself to the top of an ivory tower, making him a hyppocrite.



Well, this is patronising...

What part of what I wrote here before suggests that she isnt playing to win? In fact, I wrote they ALL are playing to win.

Not really needed tbh Fruit.

well on the one hand Alex is supposed to be all nice and caring but on the other hand she wants to cash in the £100k cheque.. those two things are a conflict of interests in my opinion.

I like Alex as a person and would get on with her, but this image the Alex fans are painting of a 'sweet innocent caring wonderful etc' girl isn't washing with me I'm afraid. I'd much rather see her start taking part in the game instead of playing poor me the only way I can win is by not being controversial

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

And also, you hate Alex for being manipulative yet Rebeckah was your fave this year who was by far the most viscous and manipulative housemate. Go figure.

This is the TiBB forum Turtle, we should know by now that it isn't WHAT is done that outrages people, it is WHO does it.

Folks love their double standards here.

People singling Alex for being 'manipulative' is utterly ridiculous in a house with Jay, Aaron, Anton et al in it, but I guess she is the barrier to their faves winning and they need to scrabble for what they can get.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by vesavius

This is the TiBB forum Turtle, we should know by now that it isn't WHAT is done that outrages people, it is WHO does it.

Folks love their double standards here.

People singling Alex for being 'manipulative' is utterly ridiculous in a house with Jay, Aaron, Anton et al in it, but I guess she is the barrier to their faves winning and they need to scrabble for what they can get.

Alex is a big threat to Faye, that's absolutely true, but we Faye fans are the first to admit our own personal game plans!

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well on the one hand Alex is supposed to be all nice and caring but on the other hand she wants to cash in the £100k cheque.. those two things are a conflict of interests in my opinion.

eh what? You can't be nice and want the cheque? Is that what your saying?

If so, I really do not agree.

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I like Alex as a person and would get on with her, but this image the Alex fans are painting of a 'sweet innocent caring wonderful etc' girl isn't washing with me I'm afraid. I'd much rather see her start taking part in the game instead of playing poor me the only way I can win is by not being controversial

Look, you call her a game player, and then you accuse her of not 'taking part in the game'....

Which is it?

[fruit_cake]

well her game plan is to not take part in the game as much as is possible, seems to me at least

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well on the one hand Alex is supposed to be all nice and caring but on the other hand she wants to cash in the £100k cheque.. those two things are a conflict of interests in my opinion.

I like Alex as a person and would get on with her, but this image the Alex fans are painting of a 'sweet innocent caring wonderful etc' girl isn't washing with me I'm afraid. I'd much rather see her start taking part in the game instead of playing poor me the only way I can win is by not being controversial

She does take part in the game. Every task she goes into it full throttle, never complains, nor whinges, nor does she give up or refuse to take part or sabotage it unlike various other housemates.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well her game plan is to not take part in the game as much as is possible, seems to me at least

I don't agree, obviously, but saying I did... That would still mean she is playing the game right? It would just mean that her tactics in playing it are superior to the others who are up constantly. That alone would mean, by the victory conditions of BB, that she would 'deserve' to win.


Like I say, you personally not find her entertaining, thats a valid subjective opinion, but thats really all you have. Everything else you have said in this thread is starting to seem a little bit of a scrabble to find reasons to post negatively about her.

[fruit_cake]

I'm not really posting 'negatively' about Alex at all really, I guess the Alex fan's are reading more into what I say than I am saying and deep down they don't really believe in her.

Faye makes mistakes, Faye lives and dies by them and the same could be said for Anton, Arron, Jay and Harry - those are this years real housemates in my opinion.