[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Sorry Cromwell - L liked his gameplan which involved even being a bit gay with tom and as Harry said "got the camp thing down to a T" which gets Aaron the girlies who luvs vunerable/sweet. This week you could see his plan is falling all over his ass - just my view folks

Yep i do agree, i dislike him messing with Faye, that for me is taking a game to far imo

But i have to hand it to him, before Harry left his plan was working brilliantly, had the nice guy image fooling everyone in the house except Gem. His fans were fooled as well. Now his plans are in tatters and the tricks he pulled to get the "great guy" image are making him look like a bit of a twat.

[Jords]

Claymores, I missed you sprog

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Sorry Cromwell - L liked his gameplan which involved even being a bit gay with tom and as Harry said "got the camp thing down to a T" which gets Aaron the girlies who luvs vunerable/sweet. This week you could see his plan is falling all over his ass - just my view folks

I don't really get your cherry picking of what is acceptable for a gameplan, and what puts you over the edge. So, pretending to be gay or camp is a more acceptable gameplan than doing a dance for the camera's in the the toilet?

As soon as the music comes on, most of them, particularly Faye & Tom run around like headless chooks for the cams. Do you think they act like this in their own homes every time they play music? very doubtful.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Jords

Claymores, I missed you sprog

Don't get me wrong Jords - I liked Aaron whilst his gameplan had some integrity (and could even ignore it when he was grooming Tom). I just feel that this week the gameplan has fallen-off the rails (eg the little dance to toilet cam/excuses of why he now really loves Alex and 'stuck by his principles' to get her to final))

[Angus]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

What's with the Aaron is so popular because he's been saved so many times? All that tells us, is that for one reason or another voters have preferred other housemates to go. Those votes on Aaron have often been for strategic reasons, I think. Jem got more votes than Anton, but clearly not because she was popular. Many of Aaron's votes I bet are just to have him keep creating drama, and those voters will not vote him to win simply because they've voted for him before. I'm not saying he's not popular at all, by now he clearly is, just that the being saved from eviction really doesn't necessarily translates to favourite to win.

That's funny - isn't TOPPING the vote the desirable outcome when it comes to winning Big Brother? I'd say Aaron has it in the bag going on past form

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

I don't really get your cherry picking of what is acceptable for a gameplan, and what puts you over the edge. So, pretending to be gay or camp is a more acceptable gameplan than doing a dance for the camera's in the the toilet?

As soon as the music comes on, most of them, particularly Faye & Tom run around like headless chooks for the cams. Do you think they act like this in their own homes every time they play music? very doubtful.

Nope - I felt that one falsehood a week was just about ignorable whist there were other horrors to get rid of. Do you accept his undying affection for Alex? That he is sooo principled, he'd shaft the house to keep her in?

I agree others run around like headless chooks, but feel that's cos they are so dense they'd struggle to get a job with McDoofs...........oops Aaron's new excuse has already.............maybe he has a shining admiration for Big Macs and his principles do not allow him to do anything bad to those who serve them?

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Claymores

A German who struggles with English + accents.

I'm a sad git who has made her watch BB shows. She watches it + says "that git Aaron is just playing badly to viewers"

hahahahaha - so true + she detests him already. An outsider view is he's a git with bad gameplan!

Oh dear, your pal maybe needs to have watched from the beginning to appreciate the genius that is Aaron, so I reckon we can safely dismiss any "johnny come lately" opinions, based on a couple of nights' viewing. We have enough of those from most of the guests on BBBOTS.

As for Aaron "playing badly to viewers", it has done him absolutely no harm with the viewers who appreciate an honest gameplayer "warts and all" and particularly when he is usually in the right. HMs' opinions are irrelevant, they don't vote, and it's VOTES that count. Aaron will top the votes for the fifth time next week

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Colbert-Bump

Bad gameplan that's got him to the final, yeah right.

From a foreign viewer who started watching on Sunday night was the topic..........his gameplan/excuses/fake strops seem silly this week and I'm told look ludicrous to an outsider. My pal cannot believe he survived one week far less a fave to girlies For da win.

Hopefully he has 'fallen at the last hurdle'

I do agree he'd played a blinder to get this far

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by angus58

Oh dear, your pal maybe needs to have watched from the beginning to appreciate the genius that is Aaron, so I reckon we can safely dismiss any "johnny come lately" opinions, based on a couple of nights' viewing. We have enough of those from most of the guests on BBBOTS.

As for Aaron "playing badly to viewers", it has done him absolutely no harm with the viewers who appreciate an honest gameplayer "warts and all" and particularly when he is usually in the right. HMs' opinions are irrelevant, they don't vote, and it's VOTES that count. Aaron will top the votes for the fifth time next week

See the above post Angus - I accept it is a very short-term view and my pal cannot know how Aaron out-niced other horrors to always come top and deservedly there still. He has riled me a wee bit this week with lies/ridiculous ham-fisted attempts at manipulation, and I didn't even have to prompt the German to come out with "that Aaron is a self-interested asswipe" - honest.

If I'm honest, I probably tried to infuence her to detest Waggot.

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Nope - I felt that one falsehood a week was just about ignorable whist there were other horrors to get rid of. Do you accept his undying affection for Alex? That he is sooo principled, he'd shaft the house to keep her in?

I don't know much about his relationship with Alex, but we haven't had LF, so we're not privy to as much of each HMs relationship's with each other this year. But, i haven't heard him slagging her off. By the same token, i wouldn't of predicted Harry to come out and be so vocal about wanting Alex to win, so there's probably quite a few discussions we've missed. Either ways, wanting her in the final as it might get a few of her fans on side is a reasonable tactic, and not a grievous crime, in my books.

[Claymores]

Best of luck anyway Aaron fans for yer boy - please don't get too ired with my criticisms. Just one viewer (+ my foreigner think he has been a twat these last days so the good gameplaying can sometimes look faily

[Visage]

I agree he has come across bad this week and if this last few days were my only viewing of the show I would probably not care for him as a housemate.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

I don't know much about his relationship with Alex, but we haven't had LF, so we're not privy to as much of each HMs relationship's with each other this year. But, i haven't heard him slagging her off. By the same token, i wouldn't of predicted Harry to come out and be so vocal about wanting Alex to win, so there's probably quite a few discussions we've missed. Either ways, wanting her in the final as it might get a few of her fans on side is a reasonable tactic, and not a grievous crime, in my books.

Hi psych - agree with you in parts, but tend to have noticed that Aaron had never previously walked round the garden talking to garden cam regaling us of why Alex was such a super individual. Indeed, I thought he barely ever acknowleged her preseince (or Tom's since the grooming part of gameplan went wrong). Did I just dream that he was in DR slagging Alex/Tom for talking of fave tooth/other inane talks they have?

I thought Harry would say whoever the assembled minions were shouting of/supporting. I also saw Harry being more vocal that Tom would win before being put in his place that was just a silly view.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Visage

I agree he has come across bad this week and if this last few days were my only viewing of the show I would probably not care for him as a housemate.

Maybe I should regard it as a jaundiced viewpoint and try to get her back to hating the freezer crapper Visi!!!!

The trouble is, Mr Waggott has been far nicer and credible in last days !!!!!

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Claymores

The trouble is, Mr Waggott has been far nicer and credible in last days !!!!!

Yes, I was thinking that.

I think anyone using the net and only watching this week's highlights will wonder what the hell everyone is harping on about

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Hi psych - agree with you in parts, but tend to have noticed that Aaron had never previously walked round the garden talking to garden cam regaling us of why Alex was such a super individual. Indeed, I thought he barely ever acknowleged her preseince (or Tom's since the grooming part of gameplan went wrong). Did I just dream that he was in DR slagging Alex/Tom for talking of fave tooth/other inane talks they have?

I thought Harry would say whoever the assembled minions were shouting of/supporting. I also saw Harry being more vocal that Tom would win before being put in his place that was just a silly view.

Hey Claymores yep fair points. I'm not a blind Aaron fan who's gonna come on here and defend every action he's made to the hilt. Throughout the series i've criticized a lot of what he's done. More from the perspective that, i think they've been bad tactics, rather than genius manipulator or innocent, can do no wrong (as some think).

I suspect the truth probably falls somewhere in the middle. His tactics have been fairly well thought out, but often got him into more trouble than necessary. He's made some glaring errors!

But for me at least, in the end i think he's provided the most debate and curiosity during the series, so he's been a good value HM, and a worthy finalist.

[Claymores]

I like what you say psych and cannot disagree - my personal was that Aaron always overthinks things to win Ł100k (hence the grooming of Tom as an example that went disasterously wrong).

Glad yer not blind to what is happening, I generally supported Aaron for playing them (HMs) up as well as the viewers. Maybe next week I'll like him again!

[fruit_cake]

if she starts saying 'crickey moses' it's gonna be your fault there Clay

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

if she starts saying 'crickey moses' it's gonna be your fault there Clay

Oh gosh - I think I might be in trouble. But hey wait fruity - he will tell DR/garden cam his real reasons for thinking Alex is super-duper soon. Or will he go back to telling cams that Alex and his one-time boy Tom are inane and useless?

50p on it - your call which it will be

[HBB1508]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Maybe I should regard it as a jaundiced viewpoint and try to get her back to hating the freezer crapper Visi!!!!

The trouble is, Mr Waggott has been far nicer and credible in last days !!!!!

Hasn't he just I actually found myself taking to him last night - I took myself off to the freezer just to remind myself of his bad side

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

Hasn't he just I actually found myself taking to him last night - I took myself off to the freezer just to remind myself of his bad side

hahahahaha - I'm not having a pizza or even ice cubes at your house anymores!!!!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Claymores

She only started watching since Sunday, but already knows Aaron is as false as a Ł3 note

Are you sure you havent given her your inputand I'll believe ya ,thousands wouldn't,and who IF she's watched it would get the WHOLE picture in a few days,pull the other one

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Are you sure you havent given her your inputand I'll believe ya ,thousands wouldn't,and who IF she's watched it would get the WHOLE picture in a few days,pull the other one

Honest Kaz - I cannot make another person take thoughts...........I tried to get her to hate freezer crapper but the plan went wrong!!!

My fiiend is quite intuitive and know BB well from German BBs - she points to me and says "that guy is just playing for cams"

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Oh gosh - I think I might be in trouble. But hey wait fruity - he will tell DR/garden cam his real reasons for thinking Alex is super-duper soon. Or will he go back to telling cams that Alex and his one-time boy Tom are inane and useless?

50p on it - your call which it will be

hmm wouldn't like to say predicting Arron's behaviour isn't a strong point of mine so far lol

[Florence N]

Aarons dancing in the toilet was a send up rye humour.All the HM are playing the game for the prize.I've never seen a game show where the winner has given the prize to another contestant because there are " a nicer person "