[petes_twitch]

Thanks so much for the warm welcome everyone, and can i just say it warms my heart to find so many like-minded people on here that just want the best for H&P. To those few sceptics though, they had been discussing the state oftheir relationship for a while, and both realised neither wanted to marry the other, and actually laughed about it.

[BusyBee]

Glad that you took the time to post Pete's Twitch. We always give a huge welcome to anyone with a BB2 interest. To most of us it was the best of all the BBs, not just because of P&H. Although we, as you will have seen, have all been shocked and surprised by the news, it is so good that they have remained on good terms.

[cc100]

Originally posted by bananarama
The reasons for the split thus far mentioned I believe is nothing more than a diversion. The truth is out there but is not for our or public ears........

I believe there is still a lot of loyalty between the two of them and that is the reason we will not be told the real reason...Or for that matter neither will friends be told the real reason.

It does not repeat does not take 5 years to find out people want different things in life...Like I said just a diversion...

I agree. Surely you talk about your plans for the future all the time? I know in my relationship we do.

It just seems to sudden and out of the blue.

I suppose they do still care for each other and dont want to make each other look bad.

[cc100]

Anyhoo, heres the item in TV Quick:

[James]

The magazine scans in the first post on this thread might have displayed too small to read before.

I've fixed them so they should be okay to read now.

[cc100]

There is another little item in TVQuick this week- Ill scan it in soon.

[James]

'We'll always be friends - Paul will still help me with long words!'
Jul 9 2006

Marc Baker, Wales on Sunday

BLINKIN' lovely Helen Adams last night proved there is life after Big Brother as she spoke of her future since splitting from boyfriend Paul Clarke.

The couple had millions glued to their TV sets in 2001 when the pair set the Big Brother 2 house alight with romance.

But they stunned fans last month when Helen, 28, and Berkshire-born car designer Paul, 29, announced they were separating after five years, saying they had "just grown apart". The pair, who had set up home in London, also blamed the pressure of fame.

Last night, Welsh blonde Helen - who had the BB2 house in hysterics with catchphrases such as "I like blinking I do!" - told of life without Paul after going back to her roots by opening her own hairdressing salon in Bristol.

The Cwmbran crimper left her job at the Classy Cutz salon in Newport in the summer of 2001 to appear in the reality show, promising to "bring mayhem to the house and teach them all to dance".

Despite losing out to gay air steward Brian Dowling, Helen was the first to cash in, signing up as a beauty expert for satellite TV and releasing an aerobics video.

But this week, the scissor sister was back washing hair after turning her back on the celebrity circuit.

"Paul and I splitting was just one of those things. It lasted five years, but we wanted different things. We actually get on much better as friends," said Helen.

"It was quite upsetting when we split but I still speak to him. I'm glad we can still talk. I felt like the wicked witch because I was first to say something. But then Paul said to me, 'Would you want to marry me?' and I said, 'I don't think I would' and he said, 'Well, I don't want to marry you either'. And we laughed. We'll always be friends and Paul will still help me with long words."

Now, Helen is concentrating on her new beauty boutique Hair at Nails One.

"I can't say I've gone back to my roots as I've always done hairdressing. I have never given it up. I have been doing it since I was 16. I'm loving having my own business."

When not shampooing, Helen is glued to the current crop of BB housemates and last night blasted claims the show had "had its day".

"I don't think Britain will ever get tired of it, we're too nosy as a nation," said Helen.

And she got behind fellow Welshie, Glyn Wise, from Blaenau Ffestiniog.

"I think Glyn may win but I have a feeling it may be Nikki. She's hilarious to watch. I'm not keen on Imogen - she doesn't do anything. She is one-dimensional.

"But Glyn is great. He went in a boy and he will come out a man what with his tramlines and his tan. Do I fancy him? Nah, I'm enjoying being single."

Helen's top tip for the teen lifeguard is to get a good agent on his release, because his down-to-earth appeal could make him a fortune.

"My advice to him would be just enjoy it. But it all depends what he wants and if he is interested in fame," said Helen, who is now promoting a herbal slimming pill Zotrim.

"When I went in we were all a little bit naive but it's changed now. I never regret doing it. I had the best time but I wouldn't go back. I suppose it would be like going back to the same place on holiday."

Helen also laughed at suggestions she may get back with former Welsh love Big G who she was with before Big Brother.

"Nah, I wouldn't want to get back with him," she said. "You don't always want to know what your exes are up to, do you?"

Article at icWales

[Garnet]

I am soooo sory to hear the news

[Romantic Old Bird]

It does all sound so final now, doesn't it? I think I may be moving into stage 4 and 5 of dealing with loss and grief.

I've done denial

- it just couldn't be true
I've done anger and resentment
- why didn't they try harder?

I've done bargaining
- they need to be apart to see how they can't be apart

I think I'm in depression
- because I realise they really mean it and I think it is over

I don't think I've completely done acceptance though..
- it shouldn't have happened and I am not quite ready to move on........

tomorrow is their 5th anniversary.....surely there has to be a glimmer of hope for a nostalgic get-together, too much wine...

[Romantic Old Bird]

Not to mention..........

[rachb]

It does sound pretty final doen't it
She sounds as if she's moved on.A tiny bit of me thought there might be a bit of hope but her having her own business sounds as if she's too busy to miss him
I hope they at least speak to each other tomorrow and feel at least a little sad.
ROB I think I've done all the stages except the last one

[BusyBee]

Snap ROB and rach as you both very well know the last few weeks have been ones that we have all found hard to deal with. Oh how I would like to get them together and knock their heads together. All this about still being friends - dont they realise they really are each other's lobster.

I too have been through the same procees, but I'm not ready to give up on them yet.

I wonder if this salon was owned by a friend of Helen's who suggested she might open up a hair section in their nail salon. She has been seen in Clifton several times over the years.Snap ROB and rach as you both very well know the last few weeks have been ones that we have all found hard to deal with. Oh how I would like to get them together and knock their heads together. All this about still being friends - dont they realise they really are each other's lobster.

I too have been through the same procees, but I'm not ready to give up on them yet.

I wonder if this salon was owned by a friend of Helen's who suggested she might open up a hair section in their nail salon. She has been seen in Clifton several times over the years.

I'm having the day off tomorrow just couldnt face a day of dealing with divorces/separations when we should be all celebrating five years for those two together.

[Sticks]

My aquaintance History, (Works with Grimmy) gave us a heads up about this, but we were embargoed about saying anything until this had all unfolded.

This meant I was in the stage of fatalistic resignation, if there is such a stage.

[BusyBee]

and while we are talking about photos.

[bananarama]

Its over and that is a fact that cannot be denied. As for the reasons given!!! Well thats like believing in father xmas and I stopped doing that a long time ago... The truth is out there but we won't get it.....

[cc100]

It really is over isnt it?

Oh well, as sad as it is, we HAVE to accept it.................but we cant, can we?

Ive been thinking of this a lot over the past few days- if they dont want to be together, then they shouldnt be together and would be better off separate from each other.

I just hope they get the happiness with some other partners that they couldnt sustain with each other....................

[BusyBee]

I saw Helen yesterday. She didnt look full of the joys of spring then, perhaps she was remembering what day it was?

[Romantic Old Bird]

I do so hope they had at least a telephone conversation. I am sure they were both thinking about it.

I know we were.

Yep, we're sad people in all senses of the word.

The truth is we miss them, and I hope they miss 'them' too.

It's been seven hours and fifteen days
Since you took your love away
I go out every night and sleep all day
Since you took your love away
Since you been gone I can do whatever I want
I can see whomever I choose
I can eat my dinner in a fancy restaurant
But nothing ...
I said nothing can take away these blues,
'Cause nothing compares ...
Nothing compares to you

It's been so lonely without you here
Like a bird without a song
Nothing can stop these lonely tears from falling
Tell me baby where did I go wrong?
I could put my arms around every boy I see
But they'd only remind me of you
went to the doctor guess what he told me
Guess what he told me?
He said, girl, you better have fun
No matter what you do
But he's a fool ...
'Cause nothing compares ...
Nothing compares to you ...

All the flowers that you planted, mama
In the back yard
All died when you went away
I know that living with you baby was sometimes hard
But I'm willing to give it another try
'Cause nothing compares ...
Nothing compares to you

[Mike]

Just thought i would add my input better late than never and say it is a huge shame that H & P are over, i never watched BB2 but from what you guys have said and other things i have read they were great together.

[Teacup]

I soooo enjoyed watching there relationship blossom in BB2, it's sad to hear things haven't worked out for them

I'd like to wish em both all the luck in the world for the future and thanks for the memories.

[cc100]

Originally posted by Romantic Old Bird
I do so hope they had at least a telephone conversation. I am sure they were both thinking about it.

I know we were.

Yep, we're sad people in all senses of the word.

I dont think we are sad to be upset over something of this nature- especially after following them for 5 years or so.

But in the sense of the word- yes, indeed we are very very sad.

[Lelia]

It is so very sad. One day Helen may regret leaving a gentleman like Paul. I feel the reason is Helen did'nt want to settle down and have babies but Paul did want a family while he was young enough to have fun with them as he is now 32.I have only recently found the site but have loved Paul & Helen since the begining. I remember my husband (who has since passed away) saying at the time that Helen may not stay with Paul long term, he felt at the time their ambitions were different Paul being such a loyal educated gentleman and that she may let her love of superficial things get in the way.However I had hoped love could concour all. Since I read the sad news I've been so upset and shed quite a few tears.

[AndyJK]

I never knew they split up until reading this thread. Well 5 years is a good run for a relationship these days which, don't forget, many of the cynics said would last only a few months at most.

And I doubt if they had got married it would have saved their relationship either, having read some of the replies saying it would have made a difference. It just wasn't to be.

[The_Hitman]

what a shimpy shumpy shame

[Sticks]

I was looking up a specific term as a test, and by my surprise this thread was generated but from here

But for some reason that version of TiBB will not let me log in?