[JenA]

Can adults just throw a glass of water on someone whenever they want?

[sol]

Funnily enough my uncle just sent me a book on where people stand in terms of law and their rights, but I havent read it yet so I dont know - I very much doubt that it would be classified as physical abuse though, water is hardly going to hurt her

[JakeyBoy]

What kind of question is that

[nik_fatw]

Originally posted by JenA
Can adults just throw a glass of water on someone whenever they want?

Strange you should post this as concidered doing so as well!
It's a good question!

Although I dont know the answer for sure, I would imagine if it can be proved, and of course it can, then it would be assault! In which case, should Suzie wish to take it further I would imagine she has a perfect case.

Although I think Grace is an awful person, I would hope it wouldnt even enter Suzie's head to do so!!

But it would serve Grace right if she did!!

Nik

[nik_fatw]

Originally posted by JakeyBoy
What kind of question is that

A good one!

[GlitterEyes]

I don't think it would stand up in court due to the nature of how bb works.

[nik_fatw]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I don't think it would stand up in court due to the nature of how bb works.

BB aint above the law.....

[sol]

I cant see how, throwing water at someone isn't exactly going to harm them.

[Slezer]

To be honest if you're going to go into Big Brother you cant expect luxuary and everybody you dont like to just talk about you behind your back. Some people think they have the right to go into big brother and do nothing and get waited hand and foot on. Susie got water dashed at her so what it was partly her fault Grace was going and she was very snobby toward Grace as Grace was leaving she didnt go to say goodbye she just stay sat.

[GlitterEyes]

Originally posted by nik_fatw

BB aint above the law.....

No but because it was just water and it caused no long term harm mentally or physically nothing would happen. If it was paint or something like hot tea which scalded her then that would be assault. Looking at the amount of money it would cost aswell just wouldn't be worth persueing.

[Chrizzle]

Science threw water over someone, no-one did anything about that
and Maxwell, and Craig

[GlitterEyes]

Plus kids throw water bombs every summer and nothing happens since it is water and there is no evidence in about 10mins when it has dried lol. If it was paint then the damage would stay and stain her clothes which she could claim damage for or if paint got in her hair then its another story.

[Chrizzle]

Yeah agreed

[JakeyBoy]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
Plus kids throw water bombs every summer and nothing happens since it is water and there is no evidence in about 10mins when it has dried lol. If it was paint then the damage would stay and stain her clothes which she could claim damage for or if paint got in her hair then its another story.

Exactly, good point

[JakeyBoy]

Originally posted by nik_fatw

A good one!

Obviously not!

[Lance]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
Science threw water over someone, no-one did anything about that
and Maxwell, and Craig

That's what I thought. Science was reprimanded for his behaviour by BB though.

I suppose they would have done the same to Grace but they could hardly tell her to go to the DR as she was about to leave.

[CJ4Life]

Originally posted by JakeyBoy
What kind of question is that

Are you still here?

[booty-full]

Hey guys ----- not a lawyer but a 2nd year Law student. Technically what Grace did IS a criminal offence and it IS ASSAULT!!

Unfortunately the layman believes assault to involve permanent harm when in actual fact this is not the case at all!!!!

The throwing of water seems to be a common technical assault - a section 39 offence. There are 2 types of assault under this heading;common assault and battery. Common Assault is merely where the victim FEARS IMMINENT FORCE, whereas a battery can be A MERE TOUCH!! Therefore the throwing of water and the contact with Suzie could amount to a battery - there is a famous case involving a police officer who was spat on and this amounted to a battery despite the fact that it did not cause her harm.
The water WAS thrown maliciously.

The types of assault that you guys are mistaking for the only kind of assault are:
section 49 Actual Bodily Harm which is where the skin is broken or severe bruising
section 21 Grievous Bodily Harm which is more serious as a broken bone for example i.e. kicking someone in the head, breaking ribs etc street fights. This is done recklessly and without intent
Section 18 Grievous Bodily Harm which is the same type of harm as above however performed with intent. To prove that a person intended section 18 GBH is enough to convict them of murder if the person dies

HOPE THIS CLEARS ALL OF THE MESS UP!!! Obviously cases can be dropped through lack of evidence or if the person does not wish to press charges. The police may also choose to charge a person with a lesser offence i.e. someone that has committed GBH section 21 could have it lessened to section 49 ABH if the crown prosecution service thought that a conviction was more likely under this heading.

I believe the maximum sentence for Common technical assault (i.e. common assault or battery) to be 6 months


Oh Science and Maxwell...... the case would be the same here

[JenA]

So lets say hypothetically, someone is walking down the street and they notice hey, isnt that Grace from Big Brother? She's famous, shes been on tv, they want to say hi to her. Its summer time so that person has a cup of ice water. Hypothetically if that person runs to her and trips and the cup is emptied on to her. Could a person get 6 months for that?

[booty-full]

no of course not. The person at fault has to have maliciously or intentionally performed the act. You cannot be criminally liable for an accident such as you described with a section 39 offence.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I don't think it would stand up in court due to the nature of how bb works.

I think it would stand up in court! It's all captured on camera. It would probably be classed as a common assault.

[GlitterEyes]

Originally posted by Ruth

I think it would stand up in court! It's all captured on camera. It would probably be classed as a common assault.

But did it cause any long term damage or effect the way Susie lives? If it was hot tea and she was scalded then sure that is something that would stand up better but the fact it was water would make it not worth all the hassle.

[mimmie]

In the BB house, yes. Surprised more of them don't try it. I doubt that BB would have thrown her out even if she had suvived the eviction. Lets face it, fans she might of lacked, but her viewing figures were never a problem.

[GlitterEyes]

Plus the fact Lisa threw a bike AGRESSIVELY and VICIOUSLY at the housemates has more ground for a court than throwing water. Lisa threw it not caring where it would end up in a temper and how she is still in the house is stupid.

[booty-full]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes

But did it cause any long term damage or effect the way Susie lives? If it was hot tea and she was scalded then sure that is something that would stand up better but the fact it was water would make it not worth all the hassle.

Have you not already made a similar post???? It doesn't matter whether or not lasting damage is caused!!!! Read my previous post. The lowest form of assault, common assault, is fearing imminent force and you do not even have to have contact with the person. Battery, the next form of assault, is whereby there is a mere touch and the actor has acted maliciously. That is the law...there does not have to be permanent damage that is a load of tosh!!!

The law is as I stated it.. however this does not mean that Grace would be prosecuted as I also explained that it depends whether the person presses charges or if the crown prosecution service think a conviction is likely as they will not pursue a case otherwise. Although an offence has been committed it may not be worth their while.

Oh, and we are talking Criminal Court here.
Civil Court is an entirely different matter as this is where the two parties pay for their own costs and the test is easier to fulfil than in criminal courts. Civil court is for seeking compensation, criminal court is for punishment