[Pyramid*]

Loved watching the absolute state of her when she was in the diary room after her night of flashing her droopy boobs, when she was talking to BB about her stripping off and getting into the hot tub with the far younger men in the house. She really is as rough as hell looking.

When BB asked if she normally did that: when she replied "Yes, that is what I normally do, I'm not going to lie". Admitting to being a drunken old trollop - what a wonderful way she has of humiliating herself. I really feel such pity for her sons - I can only imagine how their friends talk about Denise. She is a total laughing stock and all her own handiwork - so desperate she is for attention.

Time for the old boozed up one to vamoose the hoose.

[the truth]

dont worry denise, some useless trash tabloid will pay u for an exclusive ...and of course those malcontent disingenuous twicers loose women will find a mo9rally corrupt way to justify your disgraceful behaviour and of course blame it all on men ...cue dummy cards...cue round of applause from the worlds dumbest studio audience

[Pyramid*]

Loose Women, such an apt name for a show with a woman such as Denise.

[the truth]

its a sad remnant of the lie of radical feminism...equal opportunities for all is a wonderful thing society should aim for...but radical feminism is an ideology of complete and utter doom for everyone...only the few self serving men haters till peddle in...thankfully common sense and reason is finally dismantling this false fake hateful agenda thats simply made a few poison penned authors rich

[SharkAttack]

Originally Posted by the truth

its a sad remnant of the lie of radical feminism...equal opportunities for all is a wonderful thing society should aim for...but radical feminism is an ideology of complete and utter doom for everyone...only the few self serving men haters till peddle in...thankfully common sense and reason is finally dismantling this false fake hateful agenda thats simply made a few poison penned authors rich

Just because the housemates drink during the entire evening *every* evening, doesn't mean you have to follow along and do the same.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by SharkAttack

Just because the housemates drink during the entire evening *every* evening, doesn't mean you have to follow along and do the same.

If only Denise had heeded your advice, she would have stopped badgering Michael to have a drink just to make herself feel better about falling off the wagon on a daily basis. Michael is a recovering alcoholic and removes himself from the excessive boozing for a reason. Denise is an old soak who is in denial about her alcohol problem and truly believes she can "handle" it when she blatantly can't. Therein lies a lot of the conflict.

[Bojangles]

Unfortunately Denise is becoming a pathetic figure in the house.

[karezza]

At least Denise hasn't shagged an 85-year-old corpse for money.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by karezza

At least Denise hasn't shagged an 85-year-old corpse for money.

Strange that the twins seem to have so much more dignity than Denise, despite their former career. And yet... they do have more dignity.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Loose Women, such an apt name for a show with a woman such as Denise.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Loved watching the absolute state of her when she was in the diary room after her night of flashing her droopy boobs, when she was talking to BB about her stripping off and getting into the hot tub with the far younger men in the house. She really is as rough as hell looking.

When BB asked if she normally did that: when she replied "Yes, that is what I normally do, I'm not going to lie". Admitting to being a drunken old trollop - what a wonderful way she has of humiliating herself. I really feel such pity for her sons - I can only imagine how their friends talk about Denise. She is a total laughing stock and all her own handiwork - so desperate she is for attention.

Time for the old boozed up one to vamoose the hoose.

pmsl,Pyramid ,you made me chuckle,that word trollop always tickles me

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by the truth

dont worry denise, some useless trash tabloid will pay u for an exclusive ...and of course those malcontent disingenuous twicers loose women will find a mo9rally corrupt way to justify your disgraceful behaviour and of course blame it all on men ...cue dummy cards...cue round of applause from the worlds dumbest studio audience

Not sure even 'Loose women' will be able to defend her,they seemed reluctant to comment much on it yesterday and soon went on to the next subject,seems even they are speechless,lol.

[Saph]

So what if she got her boobs out everyones blowing it way out of proportion. You get your saggy tits out and be proud!

[bba50]

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

So what if she got her boobs out everyones blowing it way out of proportion. You get your saggy tits out and be proud!

Why are you trying so hard to defend the undefendable?

[Glenn.]

What I don't understand is why everyone seems to think the sun shines out of Team America's arse.

The twins are a pair of arrogant, pig headed morons that don't add anything whatsoever to the house. And Michael? His constant mood swings suggest to me that he's the one that's emotionally disturbed.
In last nights highlights he kept bringing the Denise 'thing' up and Natalie told him where to go. Yet he turns it on Denise saying, she keeps bringing it up.

And not getting in the white all in one for the task? Everyone in the kitchen ignored him when he was trying to justify why he wasn't taking part.
The blokes a complete prick.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

So what if she got her boobs out everyones blowing it way out of proportion. You get your saggy tits out and be proud!

Try telling that to her 10 year old son. Who will have a terrible time for the rest of his school days now. She is a disgrace.

[Livia]

Quite right InOne. The next person who considers posting in support of a woman of Denise's age sitting topless in a hot tub with some young men, I want to you picture your mother doing it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by InOne

Try telling that to her 10 year old son. Who will have a terrible time for the rest of his school days now. She is a disgrace.

[Jack_]

Can't stand this uptightness and total prudishness surrounding her actions, and well actions like this in any walk of life.

Just because she's 53 it doesn't mean she's not allowed to get drunk, have fun, get her tits out etc etc. It's her body, it's her life and she can do what she want with it. You know, the way I see it...at least she's enjoying the older years of her life, instead of sitting on online forums or on the Daily Mail website complaining about actions like hers, or every other little thing that's 'wrong' about society (yes, I know she's on a TV show based upon all of that, but I mean aside from her work). When I get to that age I'd much rather prefer to still enjoy my life than sit around and be miserable complaining about lifes most irrelevant problems.

There is nothing wrong with her getting her tits out...it's all a socially constructed notion that once you reach a certain age it's forbidden. If people stopped treating it as if she's just murdered a cat, and looked upon it how it should be looked upon (that it doesn't matter whoever does it), then nobody would have a problem with it. Just because it's not socially acceptable, it doesn't mean it's wrong. It's not socially acceptable to skip, especially in public, but that doesn't make it wrong.

Pointless criticism over irrelevant actions.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Can't stand this uptightness and total prudishness surrounding her actions, and well actions like this in any walk of life.

Just because she's 53 it doesn't mean she's not allowed to get drunk, have fun, get her tits out etc etc. It's her body, it's her life and she can do what she want with it. You know, the way I see it...at least she's enjoying the older years of her life, instead of sitting on online forums or on the Daily Mail website complaining about actions like hers, or every other little thing that's 'wrong' about society (yes, I know she's on a TV show based upon all of that, but I mean aside from her work). When I get to that age I'd much rather prefer to still enjoy my life than sit around and be miserable complaining about lifes most irrelevant problems.

There is nothing wrong with her getting her tits out...it's all a socially constructed notion that once you reach a certain age it's forbidden. If people stopped treating it as if she's just murdered a cat, and looked upon it how it should be looked upon (that it doesn't matter whoever does it), then nobody would have a problem with it. Just because it's not socially acceptable, it doesn't mean it's wrong. It's not socially acceptable to skip, especially in public, but that doesn't make it wrong.

Pointless criticism over irrelevant actions.

That's all very well and good. But don't you think she should have some consideration how it may affect her family? Especially her children?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Can't stand this uptightness and total prudishness surrounding her actions, and well actions like this in any walk of life.

Just because she's 53 it doesn't mean she's not allowed to get drunk, have fun, get her tits out etc etc. It's her body, it's her life and she can do what she want with it. You know, the way I see it...at least she's enjoying the older years of her life, instead of sitting on online forums or on the Daily Mail website complaining about actions like hers, or every other little thing that's 'wrong' about society (yes, I know she's on a TV show based upon all of that, but I mean aside from her work). When I get to that age I'd much rather prefer to still enjoy my life than sit around and be miserable complaining about lifes most irrelevant problems.

There is nothing wrong with her getting her tits out...it's all a socially constructed notion that once you reach a certain age it's forbidden. If people stopped treating it as if she's just murdered a cat, and looked upon it how it should be looked upon (that it doesn't matter whoever does it), then nobody would have a problem with it. Just because it's not socially acceptable, it doesn't mean it's wrong. It's not socially acceptable to skip, especially in public, but that doesn't make it wrong.

Pointless criticism over irrelevant actions.

If she were on a beach no one would think anything of it. On the beach, I do it myself. On Big Brother, in a hot tub full of boys half her age, it makes her look ridiculous.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by InOne

That's all very well and good. But don't you think she should have some consideration how it may affect her family? Especially her children?

No, because she should (as should everybody) be free to do as she pleases, no matter how old she is.

People should stop being so prudish about this sort of stuff, because at the end of the day...there is no problem with it. The only reason people think there is a problem wrong with it, is because they have been taught to believe so. It's a social thing, it's not a rule of the earth that 'older' women aren't allowed to get their tits out in public. It's 2012, everybody needs to step back and realise that actions like these aren't one of the world's greatest problems, and that perhaps people should just let people get on with their lives.

If people did that, then her children and family would have nothing to worry about. Really, it's not down to her, it's down to everyone else on the planet to realise that actually there is nothing wrong with it. There's not suddenly a cut-off age where you can't do certain things, unless naturally of course.

Everybody should be free to do as they wish.

Originally Posted by Livia

If she were on a beach no one would think anything of it. On the beach, I do it myself. On Big Brother, in a hot tub full of boys half her age, it makes her look ridiculous.

No it doesn't make her look ridiculous. You only think that because you've been taught to, and everybody else thinks it. As I said to InOne, it's a social concept, something that's been dreamt up along the years. That 'older' women aren't allowed to get their tits out, and should act much more uptight compared to younger women. Why? When you think about it, there is no reason why. I'm sorry but there's not.

It's the opposite of looking ridiculous in fact, it's good for her that she isn't going to sit back and be miserable for the rest of her life, refraining from having any type of fun just because she's reached a certain age, an age where society believes it's a cut-off point for her to carry out certain actions. I mean it's just laughable, and good for her that she doesn't give a **** what some Daily Mail readers think. If only more people acted how she did, living life to the full instead of holding back and complaining.

[InOne]

Of course she is free to do as she wants. But in some cases it really isn't practical. I would probably be in the same boat as you if she didn't have kids and that. I just think she shoud give some more consideration to them whe doing stuff like that. What kind of a role model is a married woman who get smashed on national TV and gets half naked into a hot tub with an 18 year old? It's not about being prudish, it's about having self respect. Even the loose women are a bit dodgy about talking about it, can't see her getting the "doing it for the girls" support on this one.

[rusticgal]

Complete over-reaction... whats wrong with Denise having a few drinks and having some fun. So what if she is 53...does that mean she has to go to bed at 9pm with a cup of cocoa??
You all need to get a life I am sure her son knows what she is all about. Her only drawback is wanting Michael to be her friend...she hasnt read him very well.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by InOne

Of course she is free to do as she wants. But in some cases it really isn't practical. I would probably be in the same boat as you if she didn't have kids and that. I just think she shoud give some more consideration to them whe doing stuff like that. What kind of a role model is a married woman who get smashed on national TV and gets half naked into a hot tub with an 18 year old? It's not about being prudish, it's about having self respect. Even the loose women are a bit dodgy about talking about it, can't see her getting the "doing it for the girls" support on this one.

But the thing is, the ideas of 'role models' and 'self respect' are also socially invented concepts. They aren't set in stone, they've just been dreamt up by society over time. Why do you not have self respect if you decide to get your tits out on national TV or otherwise? Why? Why is it such a bad thing that's looked down upon? I don't know how to explain it, but it just doesn't make sense when you think about it properly. How can it mean you don't have any self respect when it's something that is just socially unacceptable, but that doesn't mean it's wrong?

It doesn't harm anyone. The only things people should be worried about in society is things that do hurt people properly, things like murder, rape, torture etc. Those are the real problems, not older women getting their tits out and behaving like younger women (not that there should be any difference with how they act).

Giving consideration to her children should be things like not revealing any of their personal secrets on national TV, but I don't see why her getting her tits out should be looked down upon. It's time that people stopped being so uptight about stuff like this, because that's all that it is. There isn't a problem with it when people think about it properly, people just think there is because that's what they've grown up with, but as with most things, that doesn't necessarily make it right.