[cfromhx02]

I asked the question how many will vote for Caroline above.Most think either none will or few.I agree because I don't think most have spotted or been able to work it out yet.

I think only Lydia is a good possible vote to put Caroline up for eviction because she has seen what she is up to with Ash Sara and Lauren.
So how long do you think it'll take the rest of them to notice what Caroline is like ?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Couple of weeks

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Couple of weeks

Let's hope so.

I know we need some HMs to cause controversy but I think we shouldn't allow too much coldness or lack of empathy to be rewarded.Just wish they could see some of the footage that we've seen.

[Kizzy]

not long.

[Samuel.]

There's nothing to suss out.

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

There's nothing to suss out.

Yeah, it's very obvious isn't it ? So how come they haven't seen how cold and lacking in feelings for others she is ?

Are they thick ? No, in reality, if you really think about it, they haven't seen the look or lack of emotion on her face and the secret chats we've seen in corners of the house as they haven't seen the footage/ filming of it that viewers have.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

Yeah, it's very obvious isn't it ? So how come they haven't seen how cold and lacking in feelings for others she is ?

Are they thick ? No, in reality, if you really think about it, they haven't seen the look or lack of emotion on her face and the secret chats we've seen in corners of the house as they haven't seen the footage/ filming of it that viewers have.

It's not that people are not able to "suss" her out, nor is it right to imagine that you can see something others are not capable of seeing. It's all about people's perception. I have no strong feelings about Caroline one way or the other, and I think people are crediting her with an almost Machiavellian ability to manipulate her situation which she certainly does not possess. It seems to me that you're allowing your strong dislike of her to colour what you see.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's not that people are not able to "suss" her out, nor is it right to imagine that you can see something others are not capable of seeing. It's all about people's perception. I have no strong feelings about Caroline one way or the other, and I think people are crediting her with an almost Machiavellian ability to manipulate her situation which she certainly does not possess. It seems to me that you're allowing your strong dislike of her to colour what you see.

..I think she actually comes across as a bit dim..a little b*tchy yes..but she's not the only one

[DrunkerThanMoses]

She is playing both sides which is always dangerous, I think whenever one group has started to destroy the other she will be targeted as she is the leader of Scott, Becky and her group

[thesheriff443]

there are no saints in the house this year
to stab someone in the back you have to be right behind them!

[Ammi]

..I agree there are quite a few playing the game..(strange..it being a game show)...Lauren and Shievonne's reaction to Chris being evicted..smelling his pillow and saying he was their 'baby'.....just too OTT

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I agree there are quite a few playing the game..(strange..it being a game show)...Lauren and Shievonne's reaction to Chris being evicted..smelling his pillow and saying he was their 'baby'.....just too OTT

I felt it was OTT aswell.

[InOne]

I doubt she will be sussed and will probably end up winning. She's got them all on strings.

[lahaine]

Originally Posted by InOne

I doubt she will be sussed and will probably end up winning. She's got them all on strings.

The public will see it though so she wont win it. I think getting to the final will be a victory for her.

[Samuel.]

TiBB has quite the imagination.

[thesheriff443]

its all smiles thru gritted teeth from all of them!

[fitz2k2]

someone needs to take caroline down

[MeMyselfAndI]

Livia you don't have to look down on all the female housemates all the time.
And Caroline isn't playing a game imo.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

Livia you don't have to look down on all the female housemates all the time.
And Caroline isn't playing a game imo.

How did you come to that conclusion from what I posted? Because I have no strong feelings either way for Caroline, or that I don't think she's a master manipulator? I think she's an ordinary girl with a posh accent. How is that me looking down on anyone?

[lahaine]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

Livia you don't have to look down on all the female housemates all the time.
And Caroline isn't playing a game imo.

Stupidest comment i ever heard everyone is playing a game in their own way. Its a game show, so many people are still shocked HM's are playing a game.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Livia you don't have to look down on all the female housemates all the time.
And Caroline isn't playing a game imo.

[Jords]

So much love in the house for Cazza this week.

[smartalec2718]

I'm enjoying watching Caroline come into her own over these past few HLs. The date with Chris was, in particular, wonderfully trainwrecky viewing. I think this week's noms will tell a lot about her game and whether people have sussed her. If she clearly influences Scott and Becky's votes to make a bloc, she'll have taken a step up in my book.

Did anyone else think her "conflict management" between Lauren and Ashleigh was really just an attempt to stir the pot? It seems like Ashleigh was exasperated with Lauren but Lauren was oblivious and was just grateful to Caroline...was it maybe an attempt to get Lauren nominated without Caroline getting her hands dirty out in the open?

[MeMyselfAndI]

Your posts on Caroline just come across as if you think is Caroline really stupid, when the likes of Ashleigh, Arron, Becky & Chris are/were in the house.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

Your posts on Caroline just come across as if you think is Caroline really stupid, when the likes of Ashleigh, Arron, Becky & Chris are/were in the house.

Not at all. I'm sorry if that's what's come across. I was actually trying to stick up for her a bit even though she's not my favourite. Some people are saying she's playing this huge manipulative game and playing this one off against that one... I don't think she's clever enough to play a game like that and for people not to see through her. I don't think she's stupid, but she's no evil genius either. Rebecca, Arron, Chris and Ashleigh though, I reserve the right to look down slightly on them...