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Old 27-06-2012, 11:35 PM #1
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Default master manipulator or naïve ninny?

I was just reading this on the Unreality TV site. Quite insightful....

Big Brother housemate Caroline Wharram is something of an enigma…



First and foremost, her hair is inexplicable, and I can only assume she spends hours per day back combing it or arranging for a bush to be delivered to the house through which she can dragged backwards.

But of course, her hair is only one facet of her persona that is utterly confusing, and I’m – somewhat – still trying to decide if she is a master manipulator or a naïve ninny, but I have to say, I’m erring towards master manipulator right now…

The reason being that despite the fact she’s actually got a brilliant sense of humour, and can be very funny and droll, which I really like about her, she also has a propensity for joining whichever gang is en vogue at any particular moment.

For instance, yesterday, as part of the new shopping task, Arron was told that if he cut up all the cigarettes in the house, the group would score 20 points towards their goal of 100 points. So he did it…

He was apologetic about it, especially when Lauren nearly cried and Luke A looked like he might kill himself, but later, he chose to talk to Caroline about Adam’s furious reaction to the ciggie cull…

And she wholeheartedly supported Arron in what he’d done, saying “Arron, you absolutely did the right thing. You can’t put the needs of five people ahead of everyone in the house…”

Fair comment I guess, however, she then managed to turn the conversation around into being a personal attack on Adam, who she says smells, is unhygienic and who she “simply can’t bear.”

She later tried to “bait” Adam by sarcastically asking him if he wanted to form a group with her so that they can gang up on everyone else.

Her intimation clearly being that she thinks that’s what Adam’s done, but he was having none of it and said, “She is taking her position and trying to crack me.”

Later, while speaking to Arron, she moaned, “I want to do something funny. Why is everyone so serious? No one wants to play with me.”

An example of her idea of “playing” came in last night’s highlights show when we saw Caroline saying that she thought hiding Deana’s epilator was “fun” and “a joke” and not intended to be anything else, such as a conscious decision to hide something that evidently is important to Deana.

So is Caroline’s idea of playful fun any which is actually totally bitchiness hiding beneath a smiling façade, or does she really believe that none of her “fun” remarks or actions are in any way upsetting or harmful to anybody?

To hark back to the Confusing Cuisine task, which Caroline managed to wangle her way out of by saying she didn’t feel well, but seemed perfectly ok to me, when Deana – who Caroline said in last night highlights show that she “genuinely likes” – did her gagging on ham thing, once other housemates began berating her for it, Caroline joined in, branding Deana’s reaction “stupid.”

She’s always very careful not to publicly instigate nastiness, and only joins in when others have started it, but join in she always does…

So, is she a master manipulator who orchestrates mean and/or bitchy conversations and situations, or is she a naïve ninny who’s merely dragged along in the groundswell of pack-like mean behaviour?


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I think she is quite the manipulator, but not quite clever enough to be totally deceiving.

Thoughts?
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Old 27-06-2012, 11:36 PM #2
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Clearly the master manipulator. There is no doubt about it.
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Yeah, master manipulator for sure. She is the puppeteer in that house and she's pulling all of the strings. Whoever she wants out, you can guarantee that they'll be up at the very least.
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Clearly the master manipulator. There is no doubt about it.
If she ever goes into politics I am sure Cunning Caroline could employ you as her spin doctor.
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master manipulator, Benedict had her sussed.

Anasty piece of work all in all.

' lauren is so two faced, but i really do love her, but she is bitchy'
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Cant decide 1 minute I like her the next I dont.
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I think she is listened to, I like Caroline though.
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She is definitely a master manipulator...

A truely horrid girl, who thinks nothing of being nasty & bitchy about anyone
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I think she is listened to, I like Caroline though.
I'm like Jords. I can't make my mind up about her. I don't dislike her though. She's sort of endearing in a strange sort of way, if that makes sense?
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Talking of not knowing who the Nazis were, it's just come to me.
I think Caroline is evil enough to be some kind of Nazi torturer.
Their is something of the Nazi frauline about her.
I think she's corrupt enough and enjoys seeing others suffer enough,
maybe just needs a little bit more losing of feeling to be completely heartless enough to be one.
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Benedict saw right through her ,the rest that are left have a mentality of three below a poodle so they are easy to fool.
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Quite frankly the girl needs putting down before she really hurts someone.I'm not saying I advocate it.
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Caroline knows who the Nazi's and Hitler were, in the clip she doesn't say anything that should make us believe deifferently. Not sure where you're getting that from...
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Caroline knows who the Nazi's and Hitler were, in the clip she doesn't say anything that should make us believe deifferently. Not sure where you're getting that from...
I never said she didn't know, if you meant me, as I've referenced someone in the house not knowing who the Nazis were above.I never said she didn't know did I ?
Check what you read before you accuse someone of gettting something like that wrong.

I was just referring to what the conversation on an other thread a few mins before had been about, and it was Ashleigh in the house that didn't really know who they were, so just summing up what was the current climate of conversation that's all,
and then went on to say as the conversation earlier had been about Nazis that she made me think she possibly could become that
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Apologies. I was skimming through the posts and misread yours, I thought you were lumping Caroline in with Becky and Ashleigh. Also, I wasn't accusing you of anything, I never said anything negative, was just trying to set the record straight.
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I'm like Jords. I can't make my mind up about her. I don't dislike her though. She's sort of endearing in a strange sort of way, if that makes sense?
Yepp I get what you mean too. I just expected her to be loads of fun and out there which she isnt completely, but I do love what she comes out with sometimes.

She also sways to and from from being a sheep. The other night she took part hiding Deana's epilator to get her chip in but tonight I liked how she openly was pissed at her mates Becky and Scott for nominating Lydia and following the crowd.

Shes a "medium" of everything I think
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Benedict saw right through her ,the rest that are left have a mentality of three below a poodle so they are easy to fool.
lol true
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She drips poison and laughs at it's effect........vile.
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She drips poison and laughs at it's effect........vile.
I'd have to agree with you. Spot on!
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caroline uses her dumbness to get people to do what she wants. and belittle people she doesn't like. the girl is posh she is no dumbass.
she's a born bully thats why she keeps saying she's not , that coach story she told says it all.
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caroline uses her dumbness to get people to do what she wants. and belittle people she doesn't like. the girl is posh she is no dumbass.
she's a born bully thats why she keeps saying she's not , that coach story she told says it all.
Shes quite nasty and spiteful.
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She is very spoilt and a nasty bully
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