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The X Factor 2012 [S9] Series 9 of ITV's music reality show, The X Factor with judges Gary, Tulisa, new judge Nicole and Louis was shown August - December 2012.

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Old 10-12-2012, 12:40 AM #1
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Thumbs down Matt Cardle vs James Arthur [Twitter war continues]

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Matt Cardle has said he is "disappointed" that James Arthur criticised him in the press.

Cardle took to Twitter today (December 9) to send support to Arthur but addressed the comments he was reported to have made to The Mirror.

James Arthur reportedly said that the previous male X Factor winners have not been successful as they have released poor material.

He said: "I find the statistics ridiculous, the blokes that have won before have had a niche, they haven't sold records because they haven't made great albums. That's the bottom line.

"This show has evolved. If either me or Jahmene won, the albums will be good and they will sell.

"There's creative control this year, there hasn't been that before."

He went on to say that previous winners have had to "compromise".

Cardle responded: "@JamesArthur23 I think you are so talented bro and I really hope you win tonight, but you haven't sold 2 million records... yet...

"@JamesArthur23 … you haven't had two Top 10 albums… yet. So disappointed you're slagging off my work and my career.


"@JamesArthur23 you're not just slagging me off, but Eg White, Biff Stannard, Steve Booker, and so many other incredible writer producers."

He ended by tweeting: "I appreciate everyone's opinion. I've ALWAYS said James is an amazing talent but today he has slagged off my work in the press. Disappointing."

Read more: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s103/...f-my-work.html
Even Tulisa has sold over 2 million...

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hasn't he got some painting to do
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Matt Cardle doesn't really have any leg to stand on here...
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Tbf James Arthur is right, Matt had a decent voice but his songs were rubbish, and Louis turned Shayne into a clown, and Simon never wanted Joe to win so he got a bunch of covers.

All I will say in defense of Matt though is that I hope James puts his money where his mouth is and produces some great Music.
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Both come across as bellends away from the show tbh. Think too much of themselves
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Gotta love that winner curse
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james is good and all but the poor guy is destined to fail because he won
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think he could break the curse really, he has more to him than just another xf contestant with a voice

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i was thinking that too, i honestly do hope he does good
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What does he expect.. he only won last night :s
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I like James, but winning usually isn't a good thing, he may have been better off coming runner-up. After 9 seasons of XF all the winners have faded into obscurity (even Leona and Alexandra have faded compared to what they once were) so it's doubtful it will change now, especially when the show has even less fans and viewers.
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I like Matt and his music,I have really enjoyed his last two albums,James on the other hand is ok and I will wait to see if he sticks with Syco or has the balls to pull away and be true to himself,or if he sells millions,he really shouldnt critize other people until he's surpassed them and I wont hold my breath.
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It is a small bit premature of him to be pointing out where other winners have gone wrong tbf
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Matt's material was LAUGHABLE
James has so much more potential. And if he can break one curse he can break another.
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I like Matt and his music,I have really enjoyed his last two albums,James on the other hand is ok and I will wait to see if he sticks with Syco or has the balls to pull away and be true to himself,or if he sells millions,he really shouldnt critize other people until he's surpassed them and I wont hold my breath.
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It is a small bit premature of him to be pointing out where other winners have gone wrong tbf
Have to say agree with both of you, I think Matt is got the nicest personality of the two of them & I love his music, James is a good singer, but there just something about him I can't take to, but I can't put my finger on it why that is.
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Have to say agree with both of you, I think Matt is got the nicest personality of the two of them & I love his music, James is a good singer, but there just something about him I can't take to, but I can't put my finger on it why that is.
Thats exactly my feeling on James,I can not warm to him at all,he just looks as though he needs winding up all the time and I think these people lauding him as the next big thing are in for a shock and Yes,I love Matts music too
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Flop mess.

He should stop crying in the papers and look for a job.
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Matt Cardle's singles... awful charting (

When We Collide: #1
Run for your life: #6
Starlight: #185
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James is so better than Matt and I actually hope he does better than him.

It is a shame how Matt has got this better since a decline in his career progress, when you look at how well One Direction, Rebecca Ferguson and Cher Lloyd are doing currently...
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i cant see james doing much better. Terrible song to bw followed by a niche style album
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No matter what you think of Matt Cardle, James should wait until he's in a position to say "I'm more successful than you". Matt's right, wait until you've actually made the achievement instead of presuming you will.

Epic embarrassment if he flops now.
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It is a small bit premature of him to be pointing out where other winners have gone wrong tbf
not really

I can, and have done on numerous occasions, point out where they went wrong

just because someone's in the same profession as him doesn't mean he has to hold his tongue. If anything it's refreshing to see an X Factor act that hasn't had all of his negative opinions ironed out of him. So bored of all the "everything's amazing so happy to be here love music wanna stay true to myself xx" vacuousness
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