[arista]

New Labour Did this mess
You would be at School pushed to go to University
and No Freaking Job Advice.


If you are thinking of a Job
you need 4 back up's


Learn a Trade that is needed.

For Example
We Need Young Plumbers.

Job Advice is needed more than False Education.

This was debated on ITV1H Daybreak
this morning.

Originally Posted by arista

New Labour Did this mess
You would be at School pushed to go to University
and No Freaking Job Advice.


If you are thinking of a Job
you need 4 back up's


Learn a Trade that is needed.

For Example
We Need Young Plumbers.

Job Advice is needed more than False Education.

This was debated on ITV1H Daybreak
this morning.

That's one back up. What are the other 3?

Industry and manufacturing is dying. Kids learning trades today might find their skills surplus to requirements in 15-20 years, and what happens then?

If you go into education with the right frame of mind, then it will never be false.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

That's one back up. What are the other 3?

Industry and manufacturing is dying. Kids learning trades today might find their skills surplus to requirements in 15-20 years, and what happens then?

If you go into education with the right frame of mind, then it will never be false.

The Problem is they Ain't Learning enough trades.

Education can be Good
but not at this time.

Originally Posted by arista

The Problem is they Ain't Learning enough trades.

Education can be Good
but not at this time.

So what trades are good ones to learn, that will see them in work for 40ish years of their careers?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

So what trades are good ones to learn, that will see them in work for 40ish years of their careers?

Computer Basics
will help with all trades.



You can not Jump that far ahead
there could be a World War on or something.

Originally Posted by arista

Computer Basics
will help with all trades.



You can not Jump that far ahead
there could be a World War on or something.

So your point is that people need to learn trades, but don't worry about doing something that can see them from 18-70, just in case there is a world war?

99% of future adults into the work force will understand the basics of computers by the time they're about 9.

[Livia]

What the world doesn't need is another round of media studies and performing arts students. Some young people are encouraged to have unreaslistic dreams of careers out of their reach. I do agree there should be more encouragement for people to go into vocational education, learn a trade, get some skills you can sell. Not everyone is cut out for university and yet it seems to be the natural progression now, whether you're academic or not.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

So your point is that people need to learn trades, but don't worry about doing something that can see them from 18-70, just in case there is a world war?

99% of future adults into the work force will understand the basics of computers by the time they're about 9.

Do Not Be Silly.

But the Industry Changes Fast
so no you can not say a job is for life
unless its like a Plumber.

Originally Posted by arista

Do Not Be Silly.

But the Industry Changes Fast
so no you can not say a job is for life
unless its like a Plumber.

Isn't the whole purpose of learning a trade, the fact it sees you through your career?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Isn't the whole purpose of learning a trade, the fact it sees you through your career?

Yes but some trades allow you to jump ship.

[Marc]

I have a good education.. good degree.. yet experience may let me down.. experience I could have got while not being at uni and working instead.....

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marc

I have a good education.. good degree.. yet experience may let me down.. experience I could have got while not being at uni and working instead.....

Yes thats a problem.