[Jack_]

I posted this elsewhere but for me, that speech is just proof of how much they have contributed to this series.

They were clearly genuine tears and emotions. Once Ryan admitted Spencer had said to him 'this is a job for us' I think it was pretty obvious that they were acting and it's just part of their characters. It was their role on The Hills and it's their role here too, that's what they do. They understand the need for drama and entertainment in reality TV, they 'get it', and that's what makes them thousands of times better housemates than any of the rest. It's all just a game, an act, a persona - it's not the real them.

And I think it's commendable that he has earnt his fee and done what he was paid to do, that is more than can be said for the rest of them who have sat on the fence, stayed in the background and have wasted hundreds of thousands of pounds of the budget. They have made this series, and people can try and deny it all they want, but they have, it's indisputable. Without them it would've crumbled into a puddle of piss. They are clearly nice, genuine people at heart but this is a TV show and as I try and stress so much on this forum, the idea is to create drama, events, talking points and they get that, he's tried to and he has succeeded.

And to be quite honest even if that was still an act, it was bloody brilliant acting and the best finish to what has been incredible game playing from them the entire series. So it's win win either way, but you will still get the usual few coming in here and not getting it. Sad really, but IMO, that is not only the best speech ever delivered in one of these final night dinners on Big Brother, but that's the perfect 'closure' to what has been an impeccable few weeks of entertainment from them. Brilliant job.

[Me. I Am Salman]

they've lived up to my expectations.

[Ramsay]

One of the greatest ever

[Jamie585]

That speech has totally made me team Speidi.. They have to win they've played a blinder of a game

[sampvt]

I didnt read all your post but I cant believe anyone with half a brain was taken in by that very very poor attempt at a speech. It was an act deserving of his status Z lister for defo. SOOOOOOOOO Fake it was funny.

[Me. I Am Salman]

[Tregard]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I didnt read all your post but I cant believe anyone with half a brain was taken in by that very very poor attempt at a speech. It was an act deserving of his status Z lister for defo. SOOOOOOOOO Fake it was funny.

What made you such a pessimist in life?

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I didnt read all your post but I cant believe anyone with half a brain was taken in by that very very poor attempt at a speech. It was an act deserving of his status Z lister for defo. SOOOOOOOOO Fake it was funny.

Did you even read the OP?..even if it was fake it was brilliant acting and was a great finish to the end of a great game they played

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I didnt read all your post but I cant believe anyone with half a brain was taken in by that very very poor attempt at a speech. It was an act deserving of his status Z lister for defo. SOOOOOOOOO Fake it was funny.

Read the last paragraph. I added it on because either way you see it, it's win win in terms of their contribution to the series.

[Jake.]

[dathadiguy]

That speech real or not has put them above the Shannon's for me - and I frikkin love the Shannon's

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by dathadiguy

That speech real or not has put them above the Shannon's for me - and I frikkin love the Shannon's

Agreed.

[Indy]

So he tells BB to give them more wine and he'd make a toast and start crying. They get wine. Then he gives the toast and cries, just like he said he would. And that's either incredibly genuine or amazing acting? Wouldn't have been more genuine or better acting if he hadn't announced it beforehand?

[jet]

Great post Jack.

[Amy Jade]

I love this thread! <3

[Brother Leon]

"Best of the series" was never in question though. The speech has made them "Best Ever" contenders now

[iRyan]

[Tregard]

Rylan and Razor debating the legitimacy of the speech was very annoying.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

"Best of the series" was never in question though. The speech has made them "Best Ever" contenders now

This is a good point actually. I love them and all but I never really considered I'd be thinking they could challenge any of my all time favourites to take the top place, but after that, and looking back at this series, that is definitely a possibility.

They are though, without a doubt, the only actual game players we've ever had on this show. I mean in the sense that they've gone in, put on a persona, and then pretty much admitted to it on the way out. I have always, like Emma, wanted for that to happen and I thought we'd had hints of it with Aaron but while he was a great housemate and winner, didn't play the game like these two have. Absolute genius from start to finish.

All time greats for sure.

[Tregard]

Originally Posted by Jack_

This is a good point actually. I love them and all but I never really considered I'd be thinking they could challenge any of my all time favourites to take the top place, but after that, and looking back at this series, that is definitely a possibility.

They are though, without a doubt, the only actual game players we've ever had on this show. I mean in the sense that they've gone in, put on a persona, and then pretty much admitted to it on the way out. I have always, like Emma, wanted for that to happen and I thought we'd had hints of it with Aaron but while he was a great housemate and winner, didn't play the game like these two have. Absolute genius from start to finish.

All time greats for sure.

Yeah, Aaron's act was up to and before entering the house, Speidi's act lasted until their final day!

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Tregard

Rylan and Razor debating the legitimacy of the speech was very annoying.

I really hope that isn't shown tomorrow. They should show his speech in full, and then end the highlights on that note and not close the lines for at least ten minutes. Because if you ask me, that's probably the best shot at winning they've given themselves all series. Honestly if this was easy and we had logical people voting they'd walk it, it's frustrating how difficult it is to ensure the best housemate wins.

[iRyan]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I really hope that isn't shown tomorrow. They should show his speech in full, and then end the highlights on that note and not close the lines for at least ten minutes. Because if you ask me, that's probably the best shot at winning they've given themselves all series. Honestly if this was easy and we had logical people voting they'd walk it, it's frustrating how difficult it is to ensure the best housemate wins.

This. It would make it so epic if they ended on that note and the audience would have their jaws dropped.

[Jake.]

It's a shame that no matter what place they come, they will be heavily boo'ed by the moronic crowd

[KingBilly]

ia so much

[Roy Mars III]

brilliant post. Agree with you 100%