[waterhog]

dangerous dogs - do we need a new act ? 29.03.13

allot of the press,
you don't need to go far or ravage,
Jade Anderson is gone from this mess,
endless have been in the savage.
gangs need to parade,
the dog is part of the poser,
jeans so low showing the crack shade,
but alert and ready i present the "Japenes Tosa".
as for your property,
peace of mind makes you merrier,
what can guard with a 1 minority,
it has to be the "Pit Bull Terrier".
to show mussel is easy,
you don't need to be a built Filipino,
cheaper and less cheesy,
is the vicious "Dogo Argentino".
gold and black is not viler,
because really well built is the "Rottweiler".
to help guard and protect needs no "Leopard",
really loyal is the "German Shepard".
do you get scared,
to the bone are you stiff,
these dogs are not to be shared,
do you want to stroke my "Bull Mastiff".
as you can see,
breeds are not rusty,
it may not snow in the uk disagree?,
but pulling us apart is the "Huskie".
we need some advice,
put some info in the meter,
because there is a heavier price,
serious damage is done by the "Akita".
i have to end,
and like now,
because gone is my friend,
as i have just been mulled by my Chow Chow.
dogs are dangerous,
i hope my insight has been fact,
is this outrageous,
do we need a review of the "Dangerous dogs act".
i am off to bed,
this is a official log,
after all this, sore is my head,
and i have just picked up this beautiful dog.

( this is a link to the story that has inspired this poem.( http://www.indianexpress.com/news/14...in-uk/1094468/ ) i do understand it has allot to do with owners and how they treat there dogs but some dogs are so dangerous it is with in there genetic make up to destruct - and this can not be correct to have on our streets. as for the end of my poem - she turned out very friendly but my god did she howlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllll.)

[GypsyGoth]

Those dogs that did that look terrifying. They are really muscular and have giant jaws. The owners who get them must be ok with the risk of it attacking family members or other living creatures.

[joeysteele]

I don't think there needs to be any breeds added to the banned dogs list.

The onus is and should be on the owners, as a dog owner myself, I accept full responsibility should my dog ever do something wrong,I should be supervising him or making sure he is being supervised by a responsible adult at all times.

I agree,all dogs should be microchipped, mine is. I also think whoever has a dog should have to register it like a birth with the local authority as to breed and all vaccinations too.

I could also support that no more than 2 dogs are kept at any one time in a 3 bedroomed dwelling for instance.
The house this tragedy happened at, it seems only had a back yard, to have 5 dogs in that space is ridiculous.

My dog is a Staffie,I would hate to see a knee jerk reaction get that breed onto a banned list or even dangerous dogs supplement list.
I have a fear that this politically unbalanced Home secretary we have at present could push for this and I think that would be totally wrong.

Policing anything as to dogs will be hard as the good owners will do and accept all that is laid down, the bad owners,who also really don't care a jot for their dogs anyway will just ignore all new rulings.
Any dog can cause serious,physical and psychological damage to anyone, particularly a child should they ever attack same.
Owners need to really supervise and protect their dogs as well as protecting the public from their dogs. That's the way forward and not knee jerk reactions to near ban all dogs in sight or report every dog that may just be barking too.

Adults and Parents also should really instil in their children not to approach dogs, I have been told I am mean because I won't let a child pat my dog.
That is fine by me because I know no one can even possibly get hurt if I do that and more to the point I protect my dog too in that he cannot get into any trouble if I insist on that.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't think there needs to be any breeds added to the banned dogs list.

The onus is and should be on the owners, as a dog owner myself, I accept full responsibility should my dog ever do something wrong,I should be supervising him or making sure he is being supervised by a responsible adult at all times.

I agree,all dogs should be microchipped, mine is. I also think whoever has a dog should have to register it like a birth with the local authority as to breed and all vaccinations too.

I could also support that no more than 2 dogs are kept at any one time in a 3 bedroomed dwelling for instance.
The house this tragedy happened at, it seems only had a back yard, to have 5 dogs in that space is ridiculous.

My dog is a Staffie,I would hate to see a knee jerk reaction get that breed onto a banned list or even dangerous dogs supplement list.
I have a fear that this politically unbalanced Home secretary we have at present could push for this and I think that would be totally wrong.

Policing anything as to dogs will be hard as the good owners will do and accept all that is laid down, the bad owners,who also really don't care a jot for their dogs anyway will just ignore all new rulings.
Any dog can cause serious,physical and psychological damage to anyone, particularly a child should they ever attack same.
Owners need to really supervise and protect their dogs as well as protecting the public from their dogs. That's the way forward and not knee jerk reactions to near ban all dogs in sight or report every dog that may just be barking too.

Adults and Parents also should really instil in their children not to approach dogs, I have been told I am mean because I won't let a child pat my dog.
That is fine by me because I know no one can even possibly get hurt if I do that and more to the point I protect my dog too in that he cannot get into any trouble if I insist on that.

This.

[lostalex]

Did you know that the reason dogs used to wear spiked collars is to protect them from other dogs? Dogs usually go for the neck, so greeks would put spiked collars on their dogs to protect them from other dogs attacks.

[Kizzy]

I think breeders should be registered and inspected, the owner of the dogs that killed this poor child was farming these half starved unsocialised animals.
Ether that or she has said that to cover for the fact these dogs were kept for illegal dog fighting, who keeps 5 huge aggressive dogs as pets? There is much more than we know to this story.

[Glenn.]

I know it sounds crazy but I think people should have some kind of license to actually own a dog.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Glenn

I know it sounds crazy but I think people should have some kind of license to actually own a dog.

There used to be a dog licence apparantly ages ago, I have no objection at all to having to have a dog licence.

Again though,responsible owners would certainly get one and bad owners would avoid getting one any way they could.

I am 100% happy to pay for a dog licence,no matter the cost.

[lostalex]

I don't see how a license would have prevented this tragedy.

[Ammi]

..I saw this image and it seems appropriate to this thread ...



..it does make me think though..as in people as well, is it all down to the owners and how responsible they are...(nature v nurture..)... or maybe dogs could have an inbuilt gene that would make them more prone to attack...I'm not saying this is the case because I honestly don't know...it's just something I've been thinking about since the tragic attack this week....

[joeysteele]

First off, I totally agree with you Laotalex,I don't think having a licence would have prevented this tragedy, except hopefully the owner would also have to state they had 5 dogs and that should have set some alarm bells ringing.
Since I think local authorities should know how many dogs are in any dwelling.

Ammi,worrying picture I hope it's not seen by daft Theresa May or she will be adding dogs left,right and centre to the banned list.
Dogs are unpredictable, however, I know my dog and I do have him at a word,I can say stay to him anywhere and he would until I called for him again.
However, if he were just free running around,I am well aware as with any dog,big or small,(he is classed as a medium dog),that circumstances could trigger some instinct in him, if he was to feel threatened or more to the point challenged.
That is why he is never on his own except for the back garden where I live at present with an 8 foot fence around the whole garden.

Again, where anyone to leap over that fence he would at the very least snarl at them I am sure of that but then since I have notices up, beware of the dog, people should not try to get in that garden anyway, a dog there or not.
I also know for sure, were anyone to come towards me and look as if they were going to attack me he would certainly go for them to protect me.

Dogs are unpredictable,they are animals after all and have their own instincts, they can obviously be trained so as not to be a nuisance to others but in them will always be the instincts they have and they could potentially go for someone they don't know, even someone they do at times too if something happens to make them feel challenged or in danger themselves.

If people only acquire dogs to make them aggressive and possibly fighting dogs then obvously those instincts will be brought much more to the forefront.
They are the bad owners.
However owners who are irresponsible and don't take on board what their dog/s are capable of 'possibly' are just as bad as bad owners.
The person who owned 5 dogs, had them in a backyard not secured, was certainly an irresponsible owner, imagine if anyone had opened that gate and ran off leaving it open then 4 or 5 dogs charged out.

I only have one dog, the gate to the back garden is padlocked on the inside,everyone has to come to the front where he never is unattended.
The massive majority of dog owners are really good and sensible owners whose dogs never cause any problems whatsoever to anyone else.
There are a minority and a it's a very small minority, who are irresponsible, who don't really even care about their dogs anyway,they are the ones who cause the problems.