[arista]

What a Fecking state Labours Michael Foot.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/tv/bbc_...ment/watchlive



I bet Joey is watching this.



BBC Computer saying Conservative Win
early.

North and South Divide

but Labour losing seats
Utter Bliss



Shirley Williams (SDP) saying how Labour is Falling apart
Bliss

[joeysteele]

Watching it with my Dad, really interesting,while it's good to read about these things, actually seeing it happen is very educational.

Loved the Thatcher quote when asked if she was a good butcher, her reply, ''I am not a good butcher but I have had to learn to carve the joint''.

[Kizzy]

We are still feeling the effects of her butchery skills as we all sit here getting stuffed up the ass like a christmas goose!
Tories ... who the hell was stupid enough to let them back in?...

[arista]

Yes Joey shows you why the working public
Hate socialism.


Michael Foot - Wrong leader


SDP - Failed Idea

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We are still feeling the effects of her butchery skills as we all sit here getting stuffed up the ass like a christmas goose!
Tories ... who the hell was stupid enough to let them back in?...

Kizzy it was a Strong Lady

Or a Old Communist.




Do Your Math

[Kizzy]

You do the maths arista.... where are we 30yrs on and how better off? none!
no offshore rigs, no coal, no steel, no manfacturing no publicly owned utilities...
she privatised us and outsourced us down the toilet arista.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You do the maths arista.... where are we 30yrs on and how better off? none!
no offshore rigs, no coal, no steel, no manfacturing no publicly owned utilities...
she privatised us and outsourced us down the toilet arista.

Yes But New Labour had a massive 13 years to reverse that


But it seems they were Neo Conservative.


So Socialism is Dead.


We Still Export Toilets, by the way
and we Exports Weapons all Top Quality

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes But New Labour had a massive 13 years to reverse that


But it seems they were Neo Conservative.


So Socialism is Dead.


We Still Export Toilets, by the way
and we Exports Weapons all Top Quality

Oh yeah we have maggie to thank for starting that little ball rolling, how apt that we manufacture ,at least we will have a pot to piss in.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh yeah we have maggie to thank for starting that little ball rolling, how apt that we manufacture ,at least we will have a pot to piss in.

Yes Kizzy
There is Good out there
its not all Gloom

[joeysteele]

It is very clear that the SDP Liberal alliance harmed Labour more in that election than the Conservatives though.

As for Shirley (she cannot hold a seat) Williams and the others who left Labour but stayed in their seats until the 1983 election, well I would have had no time for any of them,(had I even been born then).
I cannot stand traitors and those who run away from difficulties, had Labour won the 1979 election, hypocrite Williams would have stayed,albeit, a bad cabinet Minister and David Owen, afforded the accolade of being one of the youngest Foreign Secretary's would have been happy to stay too,neither ever raising the issue of electoral reform either.

Watching it, Michael Foot was the wrong leader though and I doubt Labour would have won in 1983 anyway but would have not been as soundly beaten with a different leader.

Odd that the views of Michael Foot and Tony Benn were considered near crackpot ones when in fact their views as to Europe are now very much this Conservative party's near policies as to Europe now and also the objection as to the nuclear deterrent are now very near the Lib Dem policies.
Labour then behind the times as to that or in fact ahead of their time with that thinking.

William Whitelaw came across well, he was also my Dad's favourite Conservative of that time too.
Even then, the Liberals cannot get the first past the post electoral system which is designed to give the single MP for a constituency.
Had to laugh too at the predictions from the SDP and Liberals that Labour was finished with defeated Bill Rodgers saying he would one day be walking into downing street when there was an Alliance Govt.

Utter piffle and they all got what they deserved in my view, especially fifty faced Williams.

I have loved watching this though, fascinated by it.

[arista]

"Watching it, Michael Foot was the wrong leader though "

You Are Most Wise Joey.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Kizzy
There is Good out there
its not all Gloom

Bogs arista.. we manufacture bogs.
We used to make aeroplanes,cars, trains and huge ships...

[arista]

[QUOTE=Kizzy;5915534]Bogs arista.. we manufacture bogs.
We used to make aeroplanes,cars, trains and huge ships...

Yes Kizzy
Pure Quality