[Vicky.]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9965...-suggests.html

Anyone surprised by this?

Fed up of demonising people on benefits...now they start to pick on the lower paid workers

No minimum wage = higher benefits bill as the taxpayer has to subsidise comapnies paying lower wages. Higher benefit bill = 'need more cuts, welfare spending is out of control'. And so on.

[joeysteele]

I have always expected the Conservatives to freeze the minimum wage or reduce the increase as to it.
It wouldn't surprise me at all.

Another rotten and wrong idea.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9965...-suggests.html

Anyone surprised by this?

Fed up of demonising people on benefits...now they start to pick on the lower paid workers

Just part of your average Tory policy of stamping on the lower classes while using the labour of the masses to feather their own nests - it's the poor wot gets the blame, it's the rich wot gets the pleasure .....

[Jack_]

So now not only is it as if being unemployed is a crime, but being a lower paid worker is too. Well I ****ing never.

Because these recent austerity cuts are so going to improve social mobility, aren't they?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

So now not only is it as if being unemployed is a crime, but being a lower paid worker is too. Well I ****ing never.

Because these recent austerity cuts are so going to improve social mobility, aren't they?

It would be funny if it wasnt so serious.

They cut benefits to apparently 'make work pay'. Then they make work pay less too.

I bet their millionaire pals will be over the moon at the prospect of being able to pay the people who actually make their money for them even less

[Omah]

The mugs from the masses who voted the Tories back into power are increasingly finding their faces covered in egg, thrown by those who are can afford to waste such a luxury item .....

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

It would be funny if it wasnt so serious.

They cut benefits to apparently 'make work pay'. Then they make work pay less too.

I bet their millionaire pals will be over the moon at the prospect of being able to pay the people who actually make their money for them even less

Political Economy regards the proletarian...like a horse, he must receive enough to enable him to work. It does not consider him, during the time when he is not working, as a human being.

Karl Marx

Funny how 75% of that has happened

[Jake.]

Well that's bloody fantastic news for people like me

[Marc]

Where's all our money going

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9965...-suggests.html

Anyone surprised by this?

Fed up of demonising people on benefits...now they start to pick on the lower paid workers

No minimum wage = higher benefits bill as the taxpayer has to subsidise companies paying lower wages. Higher benefit bill = 'need more cuts, welfare spending is out of control'. And so on.

No Vicky
Times are Real Hard
I expect even more

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Funny how 75% of that has happened

No Jack
Communism
would never work.


No Nation has it

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

No Vicky
Times are Real Hard
I expect even more

Yes, but potentially cutting wages means less tax is collected and more benefits will have to be paid out on top too. Surely you dont support increasing the benefit bill?

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes, but potentially cutting wages means less tax is collected and more benefits will have to be paid out on top too. Surely you dont support increasing the benefit bill?

The Tories have already thought of that - reduce the numbers who qualify for benefits and pay the remainder less - that way those at the bottom not providing an income for those at the top will starve or freeze to death sooner .....

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes, but potentially cutting wages means less tax is collected and more benefits will have to be paid out on top too. Surely you dont support increasing the benefit bill?

No I do not.


its a temp blip.

Originally Posted by arista

No Vicky
Times are Real Hard
I expect even more

Arista, at some point this information is going to have to sink in. You say it does, but then you just repeat the same nonsense over again.

Times don't have to be this hard, and there are proven ways to ease the burden on the British people.

My work is not immune to recession, but it's not directly affected by it either, and minimum wage is not a personal issue for me, but growth comes from the bottom, and when more people do well it rises everyone else's level up.

People at the bottom spend every penny of their money in the economy - which currently needs it, whereas people at the top save their money, and invest very little in the economy.

When you build a house, you don't start with the roof.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21998784

Chancellor George Osborne is to defend benefits and tax changes, saying "nine out of 10 working households will be better off".

Mr Osborne is set to say: "For too long, we've had a system where people who did the right thing - who get up in the morning and work hard - felt penalised for it, while people who did the wrong thing got rewarded for it.

"That's wrong. So this month we're going to put things right."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10604117

20 March 2013

Unemployment

The number of people out of work rose by 7,000 to 2.52 million in the three months to January, according to the Office for National Statistics.

The unemployment rate of 7.8% of the economically active population was unchanged from the previous quarter.

Where are the jobs, George .....

[arista]

"My work is not immune to recession"


Yes JHC
I have to Invest in China
to get a better return.


Sign Of The Times

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Arista, at some point this information is going to have to sink in. You say it does, but then you just repeat the same nonsense over again.

Times don't have to be this hard, and there are proven ways to ease the burden on the British people.

My work is not immune to recession, but it's not directly affected by it either, and minimum wage is not a personal issue for me, but growth comes from the bottom, and when more people do well it rises everyone else's level up.

People at the bottom spend every penny of their money in the economy - which currently needs it, whereas people at the top save their money, and invest very little in the economy.

When you build a house, you don't start with the roof.

Very well said.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

"My work is not immune to recession"


Yes JHC
I have to Invest in China
to get a better return.


Sign Of The Times

You don't worry about China, they're OK.
Any employer that outsources to china or the developing world are by default ruining this country.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You don't worry about China, they're OK.
Any employer that outsources to china or the developing world are by default ruining this country.

Kizzy they are Not OK
in one city they can not breath due to the Toxic Smog.


I help the UK with Contracts from the World.



As for using China
Every Big Company does it.

Wharfedale Speakers are Designed and tested here in the UK
but have to be made in a China Hi Fi Factory
or they would go under.


Kizzy you can not change these things.
I must fly you to America some time.

[Kizzy]

Yes, they do it to cut production costs, I see your 'how exploitative can it be' argument as without UK work they would suffer ... but we are suffering too.
If pot noodle can do it?... haha
I am fine in the UK ta but cheers for the offer

[Kizzy]

Then you see this...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ap...yrise-taxpayer

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Then you see this...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ap...yrise-taxpayer

What do you want
the Palace like a Disney World
bringing in bigger cash

The Queen Downsized to one place

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes, they do it to cut production costs, I see your 'how exploitative can it be' argument as without UK work they would suffer ... but we are suffering too.
If pot noodle can do it?... haha
I am fine in the UK ta but cheers for the offer

I know you are fine in the UK
but a 4 day trip can only help you.

[Kizzy]

Help me what?.. how could going to America possibly help me understand the problems within the UK better?