[arista]

Originally Posted by Jack_

This is so disgusting I just...I can't

'On Drugs?' She likes a ****ing top, stop connoting things from that you awful ******s

'On Drink?' She's ****ing 17 years old I mean get a grip and some sense of reality

'On Sex?' It's none of your ****ing business for a national newspaper to publicly print those tweets, she is allowed to be sexually active you know

'On Gay Rights?' The term 'fagg*t' has most likely been used as a general insult and whilst that's not acceptable, stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill

**** me I hate this rag, this graphic is like all their moral panics rolled into one at the expense of a 17 year old girl. Disgusting

Yes Jack.
Nice of the D.Mail to do all those larger graphics
much better than Omah's BBC.


They really can Highlight


Feel The Force

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think she would fit in well...

Yes Vicky from the TV News her Female Boss
is with you.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by arista

Its a Public Job.
I assume you Now want the lass to Keep her job?

The job is the secondary issue here, my main problem is that a national newspaper is allowed to publicly ridicule, humiliate and vilify a 17 year old girl. That is not acceptable, it's appalling and I don't care how anyone tries to cut it, it cannot be justified.

[Nedusa]

These are normal tweets for a 17 yr old in todays world......aren't they ???

[MTVN]

A lot of people seem to have no comprehension that everything they post on twitter is in the public domain and can be read by any one and at any time. When you end up in a position in the public eye it becomes all the more important to realise that because it's part and parcel of the job and you are going to be scrutinised, don't take the job if you're not prepared for that. I get that the tweets aren't all that out of the ordinary for what a lot of young people might post but her holding this position of authority is. Not really for me to say whether she should lose her job but she has been a bit stupid

[Kizzy]

She has been a LOT stupid, this role needed someone with self respect, intelligence and a modicum of control, there are many 17yr olds for whom this is not a problem. To me they have the wrong person for this position.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by MTVN

A lot of people seem to have no comprehension that everything they post on twitter is in the public domain and can be read by any one and at any time. When you end up in a position in the public eye it becomes all the more important to realise that because it's part and parcel of the job and you are going to be scrutinised, don't take the job if you're not prepared for that. I get that the tweets aren't all that out of the ordinary for what a lot of young people might post but her holding this position of authority is. Not really for me to say whether she should lose her job but she has been a bit stupid

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but were those tweets not from quite a while back now? Or are they recent?

[Kizzy]

How far back can they be if she is talking of booze and sex?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Redway

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but were those tweets not from quite a while back now? Or are they recent?

I don't know the exact dates but between 14-16 I believe, so the more recent ones will only have been a few months ago

[Omah]

Originally Posted by MTVN

A lot of people seem to have no comprehension that everything they post on twitter is in the public domain and can be read by any one and at any time. When you end up in a position in the public eye it becomes all the more important to realise that because it's part and parcel of the job and you are going to be scrutinised, don't take the job if you're not prepared for that. I get that the tweets aren't all that out of the ordinary for what a lot of young people might post but her holding this position of authority is. Not really for me to say whether she should lose her job but she has been a bit stupid

Exactly .....

..... and Ann Barnes is even more stupid to come up with a stupid idea .....

[Black Dagger]

She's young and foolish, and hopefully she'll grow up and realise she's done wrong.

I don't condone her tweets, they are disgusting, but she shouldn't be villified forever.

[Kizzy]

Does young always mean foolish though? I am sick of some making excuses for young people to act as thick as shiz.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How far back can they be if she is talking of booze and sex?

A lot far. Or do you really have no awareness of what the typical teenager is like?

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't know the exact dates but between 14-16 I believe, so the more recent ones will only have been a few months ago

Well, I was under the impression that most of those posts had been made when she was 14 and 15, in which case I particularly didn't think Daily Mail publishing those tweets were appropriate, as she may well have matured by now.

If the recent ones are as you say, a few months ago, then I understand both sides a bit more, although I'd still maintain the belief that it's wrong to publish tweets like that and demonise a teenager.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jack_

She's 17 ****ing years old and she is being vilified by the press...is there any depths that this God awful ****ing paper will not sink to

You can't use her youth to excuse her ridiculousness, and in the next breath tell us how valid the opinions of young people are.

[lostalex]

She's a disgusting bigot. She has no place in public service. She has the right to spew whatever disgusting bigoted hate-feuled rants she wants, but she does NOT have the right to receive tax payer money to do it.

there are so many good spirited, enlightened, intelligent youths out there that DESERVE to be supported by the tax payer.

This ugly little racist pig is not one of them.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Livia

You can't use her youth to excuse her ridiculousness, and in the next breath tell us how valid the opinions of young people are.

Exactly .....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Redway

A lot far. Or do you really have no awareness of what the typical teenager is like?


Well, I was under the impression that most of those posts had been made when she was 14 and 15, in which case I particularly didn't think Daily Mail publishing those tweets were appropriate, as she may well have matured by now.

If the recent ones are as you say, a few months ago, then I understand both sides a bit more, although I'd still maintain the belief that it's wrong to publish tweets like that and demonise a teenager.

Rubbish! of course I do.. I own two teenagers I know how they work.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Rubbish! of course I do.. I own two teenagers I know how they work.

Then what was the need for your post if you know fully well all the stuff about underage drinking, etc? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to justify her idiotic behaviour, but it's completely wrong to publish tweets without consent no matter what.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Redway

Then what was the need for your post if you know fully well all the stuff about underage drinking, etc? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to justify her idiotic behaviour, but it's completely wrong to publish tweets without consent no matter what.

Not all teens drink underage, don't judge everyone by your own standards.
If you are in a position of responsibility you have to take responsibility for all you do and all you say in real life and online.

[Nedusa]

On the subject of Press intrusion and invasion of privacy, i thought her tweets were to her followers, so why has a national newspaper decided it should publish private messages.

eh........was a crime being committed NO !! so why then ? could it be perhaps I know...lets have another sensational headline sell lots of newspapers and make more money....!!!

****ing Gutter Press..........!!!!!

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Not all teens drink underage, don't judge everyone by your own standards.
If you are in a position of responsibility you have to take responsibility for all you do and all you say in real life and online.

I never said all teenagers drink underage, though, did I? You doubted that those tweets went far back because of the subject nature. I merely pointed out that lots of teenagers below 18 are into that sort of thing, not necessarily all of them. Don't put words into my mouth.

You indeed have to take responsibility for your actions in such circumstances but that doesn't justify violating someone's privacy and ruining her life. It's just another of the Daily Fail's sly antics.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-22070354

Two Kent MPs - Laura Sandys and Damian Collins - said Paris should step down.

Ms Sandys, the South Thanet Conservative MP, said on Twitter: "Paris Brown should step down as youth crime Tsar for Kent... Gimmicks always backfire."

'Intense scrutiny'

Mr Collins, the Conservative MP for Folkestone and Hythe, said he did not think the role should have been created in the first place, and called on Ms Barnes to admit that it had been "a mistake".

"I feel sorry for Paris Brown to be put in this position where there is such a high level of scrutiny about what she has said.

"She is going to be under constant pressure to explain what she meant and it's best that this young person should rebuild her life away from intense media scrutiny," Mr Collins said.

Just this once, I'll back the Tories .....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Redway

I never said all teenagers drink underage, though, did I? You doubted that those tweets went far back because of the subject nature. I merely pointed out that lots of teenagers below 18 are into that sort of thing, not necessarily all of them. Don't put words into my mouth.

You indeed have to take responsibility for your actions in such circumstances but that doesn't justify violating someone's privacy and ruining her life. It's just another of the Daily Fail's sly antics.

I didn't say you did, I have to say I feel the tories have been as two faced as ever in their call for her resignation.. Has boris and dave to resign for their bullingdon club antics in their youth then?
I missed this...''Paris has apologised and told the BBC the comments, posted between the ages of 14 and 16, had been "misinterpreted''
So it would seem that those comments were made well before her commencement in this role.
Why the word immoral is being banded about again, the word has been overused so much it's lost all meaning.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I didn't say you did, I have to say I feel the tories have been as two faced as ever in their call for her resignation.. Has boris and dave to resign for their bullingdon club antics in their youth then?
I missed this...''Paris has apologised and told the BBC the comments, posted between the ages of 14 and 16, had been "misinterpreted''
So it would seem that those comments were made well before her commencement in this role.
Why the word immoral is being banded about again, the word has been overused so much it's lost all meaning.

That's exactly my point.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I missed this...''Paris has apologised and told the BBC the comments, posted between the ages of 14 and 16, had been "misinterpreted''
So it would seem that those comments were made well before her commencement in this role.

Ms Brown was 16 until 4th April this year and is currently an apprentice at Swale Borough Council - she is due to begin the one-year PCC post in July or August.