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Old 17-06-2013, 05:29 AM #1
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Default The Sallie and Gina Show..?..

..if Sallie and Gina are two of the three up for nomination I'm really torn about whether I want one of them to leave..whether you're a fan or not, I can understand that they've both got so much potential to make the house more interesting, so understand that people want them to stay and a less entertaining housemate be evicted..but if they stay, will this just turn into the Sallie and Gina Show..I hate it when BB just focus on a few housemates or bromance and we hardly see anyone else, for me I want to see equal airtime for all of them so you get a better opinion of what their character is....
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It's just part of the progression of the season, IMO. Phase one: getting rid of the loudmouths so the show can start.
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Sallie is far too domineering and it's suppressing the whole house, once she goes it will be much better.
I don't find narcissism entertaining.
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I havent seen day 3 but you seem a bit confused. Sallie has said a lot of rubbish, but its only as important as you want it to be, and in her defence she hasnt said much wrong. I didnt like the way sallie grabbed and pulled dexter away from the group a few days ago, that was quite aggressive, but maybe he was staring or something I dont know. Gina was worse with the head slap. Publicity isnt always good publicity, contrary to the saying.
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Its all about the edits. For all we know Daley and Callum or Sophie could of done something major but we wouldn't know due to the producers deciding to only show edits of sallie and gina. So if they leave it would be a win win imo. More housemates would come out
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I defiantly what gina to stay but even if sally or Gina goes all the air time would just go to the twins.
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I'd be happy to see Sallie go. She's awful if almost every way. When she keeps pouting and pulling *******-faces at herself in the mirror I have an overwhelming desire to punch her.
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I don't care who goes. Sallie is overbearing to the point of insanity Gina is a sad spoilt child. Gina's comment to Sallie that Sallies parent probably don't even like her was an interesting one for me. Some are holding it up as some amazing zinger that cut Sallie to ribbons. For me, it was exactly the kind of thing spoilt kids say to each other. It showed a lack of maturity for a twenty something girl to use parents to attack another twenty something girl. For instance, how does Gina know Sallies parent are still alive? Its the type of thing spoilt 13 year olds say to each other at boarding school.

I think Gina is a great HM but a horrible human being. Her parent may be ultimately to blame but her attitude cant all be down to them. She a grown woman acting like a petulant teenager.
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..if Sallie and Gina are two of the three up for nomination I'm really torn about whether I want one of them to leave..whether you're a fan or not, I can understand that they've both got so much potential to make the house more interesting, so understand that people want them to stay and a less entertaining housemate be evicted..but if they stay, will this just turn into the Sallie and Gina Show..I hate it when BB just focus on a few housemates or bromance and we hardly see anyone else, for me I want to see equal airtime for all of them so you get a better opinion of what their character is....
These two are gonna be up for nomination and the third person they're up against will win all the 'I hate Sallie and Gina so I'm voting this person' vote. Whoever it is will probably win at least 50-70% of the total vote save.

I think they're good TV for a week, maybe a fortnight but I'm glad one of them is out this weekend because otherwise it will be the Gina and Sallie show like ya said. Which would suckkkkkkkkk
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At the end of the day it'll only become the Gina and Sallie show if they are the only ones providing any entertainment/talking points. I'll be the first to criticise the editing of this show but if a housemate or housemates are doing something that is going to make the viewers start debating it and make the show interesting and entertaining, it'll make the edit. If other housemates aren't being shown they simply aren't doing anything worthwhile.

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I'd rather see them both say a little longer. There isnt a lot of entertainment in there. The twins are dull, sophie is dull.
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At the end of the day it'll only become the Gina and Sallie show if they are the only ones providing any entertainment/talking points. I'll be the first to criticise the editing of this show but if a housemate or housemates are doing something that is going to make the viewers start debating it and make the show interesting and entertaining, it'll make the edit. If other housemates aren't being shown they simply aren't doing anything worthwhile.
But if Gina and Sallie does 40 minutes of bickering a day (Which is likely because they're fame hungry twats) We won't get to see anything else. Not every viewer wants that
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But if Gina and Sallie does 40 minutes of bickering a day (Which is likely because they're fame hungry twats) We won't get to see anything else. Not every viewer wants that
The edit team always include 'normal' conversations between different housemates each episode (usually ones about a housemates lifestyle or something so you learn something about them...Dan talking about his career and coming out as gay/his son last night is an example), that's a given, it usually balances out the rest of the action. You'll get a few of those kind of scenes and then the rest of it will be stuff that provokes viewers into starting a debate over the stuff they're seeing. If that's Gina and Sallie arguing, that's not the editing team's problem, it's the fault of other housemates for not doing enough to create some kind of talking point.

It's important that they put together a highlights show that is going to lead to it trending (or housemates trending), forum threads being created left, right and centre and something which people at work and school the next day can discuss. If it's 48 minutes of Daley talking about his boxing career, Sophie and the twins talking about fish and chips and Hazel talking about modelling, viewers don't find that engaging and there's really not much you can take away to discuss. As I always say, debates are what keeps a show like Big Brother thriving, the edit team will be striving to ensure that numerous ones are created.
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Out of those two I'd want Sallie to go, Gina's likable because she's just an outrageous character. Sallie's just an attention seeking fool, like how she was going around making a big song and dance about eating the sweets, she just wanted to make sure everyone knew who to thank if she was right. Also the way she seeks out arguments is incredibly annoying.
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Out of those two I'd want Sallie to go, Gina's likable because she's just an outrageous character. Sallie's just an attention seeking fool, like how she was going around making a big song and dance about eating the sweets, she just wanted to make sure everyone knew who to thank if she was right. Also the way she seeks out arguments is incredibly annoying.
...yeah, there is a difference between being outrageous/eccentric or that kind of thing and just being 'loud' and to me Sallie is just loud and demands attention...I also think that Gina has maybe led a life of being spoiled, which isn't her fault..if her dad is going to give her Ł20,000 a month or whatever it is, then she's become what they have made her but she looked genuinely shocked after talking to Wolfy, so I think as a person, maybe she could learn something from being there and spending time around people outside her circle of friends/family and taking part in tasks etc...
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The edit team always include 'normal' conversations between different housemates each episode (usually ones about a housemates lifestyle or something so you learn something about them...Dan talking about his career and coming out as gay/his son last night is an example), that's a given, it usually balances out the rest of the action. You'll get a few of those kind of scenes and then the rest of it will be stuff that provokes viewers into starting a debate over the stuff they're seeing. If that's Gina and Sallie arguing, that's not the editing team's problem, it's the fault of other housemates for not doing enough to create some kind of talking point.

It's important that they put together a highlights show that is going to lead to it trending (or housemates trending), forum threads being created left, right and centre and something which people at work and school the next day can discuss. If it's 48 minutes of Daley talking about his boxing career, Sophie and the twins talking about fish and chips and Hazel talking about modelling, viewers don't find that engaging and there's really not much you can take away to discuss. As I always say, debates are what keeps a show like Big Brother thriving, the edit team will be striving to ensure that numerous ones are created.
Yeah, I understand why it happens, I just wish it didn't. Maybe if it was week 5 and all the housemates were all well known I'd care less, but these two are just as fame hungry as Jazmine was. It doesn't come across natural to me, its just coming across as two fame hungry twats gagging for airtime and I'm thoroughly bored of them on day 4
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At the end of the day it'll only become the Gina and Sallie show if they are the only ones providing any entertainment/talking points. I'll be the first to criticise the editing of this show but if a housemate or housemates are doing something that is going to make the viewers start debating it and make the show interesting and entertaining, it'll make the edit. If other housemates aren't being shown they simply aren't doing anything worthwhile.
That's pretty much spot on.

I'd much rather watch those two argue than the others sitting around doing nothing at all. That's obviously all they seem to be doing.
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