[LikeABoatOnWater]

Helen Keller is a role model.
**** off Sam, your time in the house has proved nothing.

[JTM45]

Well said!
If anything Sam will show deaf children how they should not behave!

[karezza]

Everyone is a role model.
You are either a good role model or a bad role model.
Vulgar Sam is a very bad role model.

[Spoon]

Originally Posted by karezza

Everyone is a role model.
You are either a good role model or a bad role model.
Sleazy, pervy Sam is a very bad role model.

I agree with this post. He also has a terrible sense of humor and encourages avoiding socializing/problems by sleeping excessively (which can be an indication of depression, it's true, but isn't in and of itself anything to admire, and it's what he's mostly done in the house).

[Amy Jade]

If a child wanted to be like him what would they aspire to be?

Boring? Sleazy? Forgettable?

[Videostar]

Wolfy said in an interview that during the knife throwing task with Gina Sam said to the lady that was the assistant to the knife thrower "show us your gash for bangers and mash"...but we never saw that in the HL's show edit...Sam is being protected.

[LikeABoatOnWater]

He doesn't even know his abc's.
To think Helen Keller achieved a degree whilst living a life in darkness and silence.

[brianna_jones]

Originally Posted by LikeABoatOnWater

He doesn't even know his abc's.
To think Helen Keller achieved a degree whilst living a life in darkness and silence.

Plus her loyal companion was a pit bull so she wasn't just brilliant but also pure @ heart!

[LikeABoatOnWater]

He doesn't even know his abc's.
To think Helen Keller achieved a degree whilst living a life in darkness and silence.

[Kazanne]

what a desperate thread

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

what a desperate thread

These are things your boy has said.

[Kris]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

what a desperate thread

This for sure.

[GypsyGoth]

I think Sam is a good role model.

He seems like a nice guy and he's being very honest about his deafness on national tv.

[Withano]

Are you deaf? Because if you're not you can't make a judgement on this. He's not trying to be your role model.

[LikeABoatOnWater]

Originally Posted by Withano

Are you deaf? Because if you're not you can't make a judgement on this. He's not trying to be your role model.

My 10 year old cousin is 90% deaf and spits at the tv every time Sam comes on.
She knows hes nothing but a fake, out to exploit his disability and other people with his disability..

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LikeABoatOnWater

My 10 year old cousin is 90% deaf and spits at the tv every time Sam comes on.
She knows hes nothing but a fake, out to exploit his disability and other people with his disability..

I don't think people who spit at TVs should have a say on what role models are either, they're probably looking up to the wrong people to begin with.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LikeABoatOnWater

My 10 year old cousin is 90% deaf and spits at the tv every time Sam comes on.
She knows hes nothing but a fake, out to exploit his disability and other people with his disability..

Spiffing

[Livia]

Helen *******ing Keller? She was deaf/blind and a pioneer back in the days when people who were deaf/blind were locked in a room for their whole life. Where is the connection to Sam? What, isn't he disabled enough for you? I've seen some desperate stuff, the good hard try that people are giving to floating the "sleazy Sam" title... but this thread is just nonsensical.

[smudgie]

He is a great role model.
He shows that being deaf does not make you stupid, and that ignorant people DO think this.
Dexter is a prime example, he really thought he could twist stuff Sam had said, Sam remembered exactly what he said, yet the fully hearing Dexter supposedly misheard what Sam said.

Sam may win, he might not, either way he has shown himself to be a loyal friend and a very genuine lad, you can't ask for more really.

[MatthewS]

Originally Posted by smudgie

He shows that being deaf does not make you stupid, and that ignorant people DO think this.
Dexter is a prime example, he really thought he could twist stuff Sam had said, Sam remembered exactly what he said, yet the fully hearing Dexter supposedly misheard what Sam said.

Come on man, you're implying that Dexter believes Sam is stupid because he's deaf, and has decided that he's going to exploit that for his advantage.

All of this because Dexter paraphrased Sam's comments as "Don't talk to me because Callums left", instead of "Don't feel you need to talk to me because Callums left", or something like that. They're essentially the same thing, the schematics are just slightly different. You're trying to turn this into Dexter taking advantage of Sam because he's deaf and therefore, Dexter must think he's stupid. That's a GIGANTIC reach...

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by MatthewS

Come on man, you're implying that Dexter believes Sam is stupid because he's deaf, and has decided that he's going to exploit that for his advantage.

All of this because Dexter paraphrased Sam's comments as "Don't talk to me because Callums left", instead of "Don't feel you need to talk to me because Callums left", or something like that. They're essentially the same thing, the schematics are just slightly different. You're trying to turn this into Dexter taking advantage of Sam because he's deaf and therefore, Dexter must think he's stupid. That's a GIGANTIC reach...

Nope, that was an example.
Dexter has never tried to have a conversation with Sam hardly in all the time they have been in there. Sam himself has stated how rude he has been to him. Ignoring him etc.
What you say is a slight difference in speech is quite a way off the mark, this taken with the way Dexter actually conveyed it has probably lost him any chance of winning.

[MatthewS]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Nope, that was an example.
Dexter has never tried to have a conversation with Sam hardly in all the time they have been in there. Sam himself has stated how rude he has been to him. Ignoring him etc.
What you say is a slight difference in speech is quite a way off the mark, this taken with the way Dexter actually conveyed it has probably lost him any chance of winning.

I'm not sure I'm following...

You said:

He shows that being deaf does not make you stupid, and that ignorant people DO think this.

and then:

Dexter is a prime example

Are you not calling Dexter a prime example of someone who thinks deaf people are stupid? That's how it comes across...

It also seems like Dexter is getting all the heat for him and Sam not getting on. It's a two way street though, do you really think Sam went out of his way to befriend Dexter all this time? I really think this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. Dexter and Callum had issues. Sam happens to be very tight with Callum, so him and Dexter weren't in a position to have a blossoming friendship. That's just how things played out. I really don't think it has anything to do with Sam being deaf, and that because of his deafness, Dexter thinks he's stupid and not friend material. I don't really care if Dexter wins, I'm not invested in any housemate like that.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by MatthewS

Come on man, you're implying that Dexter believes Sam is stupid because he's deaf, and has decided that he's going to exploit that for his advantage.

All of this because Dexter paraphrased Sam's comments as "Don't talk to me because Callums left", instead of "Don't feel you need to talk to me because Callums left", or something like that. They're essentially the same thing, the schematics are just slightly different. You're trying to turn this into Dexter taking advantage of Sam because he's deaf and therefore, Dexter must think he's stupid. That's a GIGANTIC reach...

I don't agree with any thread that highlights a person's disability in either a negative..or positive way!...it is callousness personified!
Sam is just Sam!...I really do not think that he has in any way "played on his disability"...so in that respect for me...Sam is a good role model!
...Having said that...I have been saying for seven weeks or so..that "I know that Sam is boring, but I wouldn't mind him winning the dosh because he is a nice genuine 'non-gameplaying lad"!....but for the last couple of weeks...he has given me plenty of reason to doubt that initial assessment of him!...and now i've finally gotten the blinkers off and realised that the boy is not so innocent after all...he knows exactly what the score is, and is [and has been all along] playing a very smart and cunning game!

oh...and by the way...excellent and correct post Matthew!

[BBUKAUSFAN]

the one impression he will leave on everyone is his cringe line "you make my winky expand" total bore and waste of space....

[aman201]

Originally Posted by BBUKAUSFAN

the one impression he will leave on everyone is his cringe line "you make my winky expand" total bore and waste of space....

And as the winner.