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Old 20-08-2013, 11:24 AM #1
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Besides Aaron (and that was mostly due to facebook voting tbh) a controversial and entertaining housemate has never really won Big Brother, at least not in recent years. This is a major problem because if people want to win the 100k they have to play a similar game to what Sam, Luke A, etc have played and remain uncontroversial *cough* boring *cough*. If you were an upcoming housemate with any general knowledge of past shows, you would know this as well. So it is actually smarter for them to play low radar and not cause any conflict/entertainment. This leads to a more boring show, but you can hardly blame the housemates for it since they most likely went on the show to win the money.

Is there any way to fix this problem, or are you happy that a 'good' person usually wins at the end, no matter if they appeared on HL shows an average of 2 mins per episode.

And what does it mean for future seasons when this type of gameplay is rewarded every single year?
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Just shows that even in a game show the public don't tolerate sly and sneaky people. It would be like wanting the bad guys to win in the next batman film.
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The solution is to bring back the FB voting, I don't get why they stopped it tbh. I don't mind nice people winning if they're entertaining (Brian Dowling BB2) but that's a rarity it seems. Nice usually equals not very interesting to watch
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Bring back them facebook votes and vote to save
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Yes, bring back FB voting or VTS. If not, let BB flop hard.
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Just shows that even in a game show the public don't tolerate sly and sneaky people. It would be like wanting the bad guys to win in the next batman film.
but why does the public shot itself in the foot time and time again by voting for the bores and then will go onto complain a show is boring?
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Bring back them facebook votes and vote to save
Yeah, can't believe they changed it to 3+ with the most votes but then switched back to VTE
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but why does the public shot itself in the foot time and time again by voting for the bores and then will go onto complain a show is boring?
Nobody's complained you can't make things like that up, plenty of nice guys have won before and I enjoyed this big brother.

Don't worry yourself, big brother will always put nasty people in the house that won't ever change.
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I think public voting should be thrown out all together, and a select few Big Brother knowledgeable people should be put on a council that goes on to pick a evictee/winner based of a complex formula of entrainment value
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Yeah, can't believe they changed it to 3+ with the most votes but then switched back to VTE
They are like half way going in the right direction with at least 3+ people up every week..just need that little extra push to make it VTS...they probably make more money on VTE though
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its a massive flaw, if sam wasn't deaf he wouldn't of won and wouldn't of even made the final. being a bore wont mean your win you need to have a medical problem of some kind
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sad it is. ruins the whole show. when you know the winner from the vt on launch nights

i hate bores the world is full of them though. i got to concerts and im the only one dancing lol 100k people all bores. mind you thats before the band starts lol
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They need to be more careful with the housemate selection process. No more Sam types.
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I don't think that its a problem, the people you described made it to the last day.

I'd always take the nice guy over the nasty guy to win 100k, regardless of if they're my favourite or not.

If the prize of BB14 was the title of Big Brother winner alone, Sam wouldn't have won. People just didn't want to reward nastiness with money.
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i'd LOVE to see them do the US format for even just a year
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Nobody's complained you can't make things like that up, plenty of nice guys have won before and I enjoyed this big brother.

Don't worry yourself, big brother will always put nasty people in the house that won't ever change.
people complain that it is boring all the time, after the controversial housemates go. It has happened for the past 10 plus years
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Just shows that even in a game show the public don't tolerate sly and sneaky people. It would be like wanting the bad guys to win in the next batman film.
There are no good guys or bad guys though, it's just a house of people who like or don't like each other. If you do relatively little, you can't be too disliked by the public or other housemates to get evicted. Being interesting is a deterrent to winning, not an aid, as it should be.
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people complain that it is boring all the time, after the controversial housemates go. It has happened for the past 10 plus years
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They need to be more careful with the housemate selection process. No more Sam types.
Sam had an okay story and was actually funny, they had no way of knowing that he would sleep 20 hours a day
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Not everyone cares that much about controversial housemates, I really wish people would stop acting if that's the be all and end all off Big Brother.

It's all good watching them throughout the show but I have not one problem when it comes to nicer housemates taking the win, this series was still great regardless of the winner.
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There are no good guys or bad guys though, it's just a house of people who like or don't like each other. If you do relatively little, you can't be too disliked by the public or other housemates to get evicted. Being interesting is a deterrent to winning, not an aid, as it should be.
No it's not, do you think the public pick the most boring housemate repeatedly just to piss you off?

Very good though i might add that to the top 5 best excuses list.
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I don't think that its a problem, the people you described made it to the last day.

I'd always take the nice guy over the nasty guy to win 100k, regardless of if they're my favourite or not.

If the prize of BB14 was the title of Big Brother winner alone, Sam wouldn't have won. People just didn't want to reward nastiness with money.
That's an interesting post, I wonder if there were two different votes in the final 5, one for winner of the Prize fund and one for Winner of the title, would we see two different people win?
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Sam had an okay story and was actually funny, they had no way of knowing that he would sleep 20 hours a day
Welsh + disability spells trouble to me. I wouldn't have selected him.
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well, yes, I would outlaw all Welsh people from applying in the future
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