[brucie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No reason at all to remove him, he accepted the warning, he realised it was inappropriate.
BB were right to do that too in the light of how things are as to what you can and cannot say on TV and what is acceptable too.

I would like to add a 'but' to it all ,however,I have decided I will keep my thoughts to myself as to this.

You mean keep your true feelings hidden...and then reveal them accidently like ron did on the mic...

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by _catapult_

Is that the biggest crime going? ya know a lot of black people do REALLY LOVE fried chicken .. lol

You know, as a black, I think things like this are TOTAL GARBAGE, all these PC do-gooders banging on calling people racist for the tiniest remark, if you were actually black yourself and had been on the receiving end of real racism, you would really understand that people like Ron are completely harmless...

Well I am black. But did you hear the initial remark that got him sacked? He called Emile a lazy nijah. People that have this kind of thinking may be harmless in the sense that they won't go around at night wearing masks and attacking those they hate, but it's not harmless in the sense that people that have these views make for uncomfortable every day living or situations. Like did you watch that experimental series where a mixed race couple were in Manchester. The waiter was being so racist and nobody said a word. It's harmful in that way that you feel people are against you, or have an idea of it which isn't correct and it can be depressing. Imagine a little muslim girl now not knowing any better starts going around crying to her mum people are scared of me just because I wear this. that's sad.

[Lord Of The Garden]

Originally Posted by _catapult_

Is that the biggest crime going? ya know a lot of black people do REALLY LOVE fried chicken .. lol

You know, as a black, I think things like this are TOTAL GARBAGE, all these PC do-gooders banging on calling people racist for the tiniest remark, if you were actually black yourself and had been on the receiving end of real racism, you would really understand that people like Ron are completely harmless...

Totally agree with this post.

I don't mind people making racial jokes about my race.

If it's funny, i'll laugh

If it's not, i won't . Simple as that.

It's not something that would bother me personally.

I wish everyone saw it that way.

Jokes are jokes but real racism is something else. When you have been on the receiving end of actual racial abuse - you know the difference, whatever your creed or colour.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Lord Of The Garden

Totally agree with this post.

I don't mind people making racial jokes about my race.

If it's funny, i'll laugh

If it's not, i won't . Simple as that.

It's not something that would bother me personally.

I wish everyone saw it that way.

Jokes are jokes but real racism is something else. When you have been on the receiving end of actual racial abuse - you know the difference, whatever your creed or colour.

so you wouldn't mind a pint with big ron? Knowing in the back of his mind he could be thinking what a nijah. Or you make a certain joke, or do a certain stereotypical thing and he chuckles, pfft typical. People like this typically think other races are beneath them. they might not be the most vulgar of racist but still uncomfortable.

[brucie]

Originally Posted by _catapult_

Is that the biggest crime going? ya know a lot of black people do REALLY LOVE fried chicken .. lol

You know, as a black, I think things like this are TOTAL GARBAGE, all these PC do-gooders banging on calling people racist for the tiniest remark, if you were actually black yourself and had been on the receiving end of real racism, you would really understand that people like Ron are completely harmless...

hahahahah!

sorry mate, couldn't stop laughing at that comment..." you know as a black"...

just like those racists who start their statement with " I'm not a racist...but ".....

before launching into their hate filled bile..

you are NOT a black person...so why lie..

" as a black ".....hilarious!!

[brucie]

Originally Posted by Lord Of The Garden

Totally agree with this post.

I don't mind people making racial jokes about my race.

If it's funny, i'll laugh

If it's not, i won't . Simple as that.

It's not something that would bother me personally.

I wish everyone saw it that way.

Jokes are jokes but real racism is something else. When you have been on the receiving end of actual racial abuse - you know the difference, whatever your creed or colour.

Uncle Tom...

The phrase "Uncle Tom" has also become an epithet for a person who is slavish and excessively subservient to perceived authority figures, particularly a black person who behaves in a subservient manner to white people; or any person perceived to be a participant in the oppression of their own group

[karezza]

Big Ron will leave the BB house on final night as the winner.

[BBfan46]

Obviously, that's not an acceptable comment but he's from a different time.

I know, that's not a real excuse but for people of this generation being sensitive to other cultures and PC is ingrained in our heads - it's second nature.

The older generations have had to adapt themselves to it when the other way of thinking and speaking was already their nature. I don't think Ron is malicious in his comments - he's just ignorant and naive.

It's tough - I think the warning was the right way to go though

[brucie]

Originally Posted by BBfan46

Obviously, that's not an acceptable comment but he's from a different time.

I know, that's not a real excuse but for people of this generation being sensitive to other cultures and PC is ingrained in our heads - it's second nature.

The older generations have had to adapt themselves to it when the other way of thinking and speaking was already their nature. I don't think Ron is malicious in his comments - he's just ignorant and naive.

It's tough - I think the warning was the right way to go though

you say that but think about this...if he makes those statements on a national tv programme...THINK what he says in the privacy of his own home!!!!

[brucie]

Originally Posted by karezza

Big Ron will leave the BB house on final night as the winner.

perhaps...highly unlikely...and if it happens it means the british support racists..

[karezza]

Originally Posted by brucie

you say that but think about this...if he makes those statements on a national tv programme...THINK what he says in the privacy of his own home!!!!

Doesn't everyone have negative thoughts? Doesn't everyone blurt out nonsense from time to time?

[karezza]

Originally Posted by brucie

perhaps...highly unlikely...and if it happens it means the british support racists..

Islam isn't a race - in my opinion it is a cult like Buddhism/Roman Catholicism/Judaism.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by brucie

you say that but think about this...if he makes those statements on a national tv programme...THINK what he says in the privacy of his own home!!!!

What's it matter what he says in the privacy of his own home as long as he isn't inciting hatred?

[brucie]

Originally Posted by karezza

Islam isn't a race - it is a cult like Buddhism/Roman Catholicism/Judaism.

officially reported that...

[karezza]

Originally Posted by brucie

officially reported that...

Well done! In my opinion all religions are cults.

[Kyle]

Karezza put 'in my opinion' before it's a cult then he can't have any cause for complaint. He can't force his opinion on you.

[brucie]

Originally Posted by karezza

Well done! All religions are cults - fact.

You wouldn't say that in public so why say it behind a computer screen..very cowardly.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by brucie

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Funny you should mention that because only the other day other forum members were highlighting another one of your idiotic statements and saying exactly that about you...

Who asked me to leave the forum?

[brucie]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Who asked me to leave the forum?

as if you would leave anyway...you have 10,000 posts on an internet forum..this place IS your life.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by brucie

as if you would leave anyway...you have 10,000 posts on an internet forum..this place IS your life.

You reported someone for their personal opinion about religions being cults and now you say that about a respected forum member.

I don't bother with the whole reporting crap your posts should stay in the public domain for everyone to see what your like.

[karezza]

Originally Posted by brucie

You wouldn't say that in public so why say it behind a computer screen..very cowardly.

Yes I would. Religion is brainwashing. Beliefs are conceptual hypnotic trances.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by brucie

as if you would leave anyway...you have 10,000 posts on an internet forum..this place IS your life.

Ive been on here for 4 years.

Love it....If I could I would do anal with it.

Anyway wheres that post you were talking about people telling me to leave a thread?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

People these days hear a word.... Think, ooh that's a bad word and might be offensive even though im not offended I must complain to Ofcom which then makes that caller a racist....FACT.

Religious/Racial words can be used any in type of cotent or situation where racism is 90% not the intention of those words being spoken.

Just banter.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

People these days take words, think ooh that's a bad hemust be racist!

Wrong.

Religious/Racial words can be used any in type of cotent or situation where racism is 90% not the intention of those words being spoken.

Just banter.

Offensively stereotyping muslims as terrorists isn't 'just banter'.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by _catapult_

Is that the biggest crime going? ya know a lot of black people do REALLY LOVE fried chicken .. lol

You know, as a black, I think things like this are TOTAL GARBAGE, all these PC do-gooders banging on calling people racist for the tiniest remark, if you were actually black yourself and had been on the receiving end of real racism, you would really understand that people like Ron are completely harmless...

Well said catapult , I like fried chicken !