[parmnion]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Why? Do you wonder about intimate information about everyone?

Or like all men if she has her thingummy bit inside her bum as well as her clitoris..cause that would be cool.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Well, I was linking to an explanation of why I use certain words, and not others. The link was important to the current topic. Troll is such a new word, that people throw it around without having used it in childhood. So it isn't used when it is needed. It's like the new swear word, a word of attack, when it is supposed to be a word to nullify arguments.

But you were saying you were always correct for using correct punctuation yet now acknowledge you are wrong in saying what you said about the word troll.

Like I said words change, evolve and have multiple meanings....Gay was happy in the 50's for example.

All major news channels and journalists use this word now referring to online bullies and spammers.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

But you were saying you were always correct for using correct punctuation yet now acknowledge you are wrong in saying what you said about the word troll.

Like I said words change, evolve and have multiple meanings....Gay was happy in the 50's for example.

All major news channels and journalists use this word now referring to online bullies and spammers.

I wasn't doing either...

I only want to talk about Big Brother anyway. So my explanation is over.

[Indy]

On the off chance that this thread ever gets back on track, do people make a distinction between making an accusation, and BB pressuring her into saying something that sounds kind of like an accusation because it makes a better soundbite for them? They all know they're not getting out of that room until they give BB what they want. If it was decided that playing on Ron's bigot background fit their narrative better than "he's uncomfortable around me", what was she supposed to do?

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Indy

On the off chance that this thread ever gets back on track, do people make a distinction between making an accusation, and BB pressuring her into saying something that sounds kind of like an accusation because it makes a better soundbite for them? They all know they're not getting out of that room until they give BB what they want. If it was decided that playing on Ron's bigot background fit their narrative better than "he's uncomfortable around me", what was she supposed to do?

We'll never know the answer to that or even what secret conversations take place in the DR!

[Johnnyuk123]

Is it time for a group hug yet?

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Indy

On the off chance that this thread ever gets back on track, do people make a distinction between making an accusation, and BB pressuring her into saying something that sounds kind of like an accusation because it makes a better soundbite for them? They all know they're not getting out of that room until they give BB what they want. If it was decided that playing on Ron's bigot background fit their narrative better than "he's uncomfortable around me", what was she supposed to do?

BB couldn't really force her to say anything. She must have been thinking it. But we might have missed part of Ron's conversation.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Is it time for a group hug yet?

I just want people to remember that I am a fan of Lauren. That's all. Whatever I say.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I just want people to remember that I am a fan of Lauren. That's all. Whatever I say.

Im a fan of Lauren too, i think she's a great housemate.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You're on fire today, marsh.

Thank you.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

No, not at all. I just think it would be daft to go through all that surgery turning your penis inside out into a vagina if you're still going to have a big hairy asshole.

But what business is it of yours?

I never asked for explicit details on what you want to know, I'm merely asking why in hell you want to be informed of it?

[Vanessa]

I don't think Ron has a problem with Lauren. But Sophie the witch does.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Are you taking the ****ing piss? Do you have any evidence for this?

Pretty sure if I was heterosexist all my friends wouldn't be straight and I wouldn't prefer women myself

And Chuff...you can give me some evidence that I'm heterosexist too thanks, seeing as you really know me in real life.

Can you give us any evidence that Ron is trans phobic?

[Heaven = Winner]

Although I have a huge disdain towards Ron, he hasn't really showed himself to be transphobic (if he is transphobic). Lauren just wants love and attention from everybody.

[Videostar]

From what Lauren once said (when asked about if Lauren was single or not) Lauren said that most men Lauren encounters are trans phobic....now im wondering were they trans phobic or just not interested in Lauren, or just don't want to get into a relationship with someone who wasn't born female? that IMO isn't trans phobic, but sadly Lauren does seem to enjoy labelling people with that if they don't worship the ground Lauren walks on.

[Alf]

Don't say nothing offensive about Lauren, it's not allowed

But it's fine for Lauren to offend people just because of the clothes they wear, that is allowed

[DanaC]

I think it's probably quite difficult for the res of us to understand what it might be like to have people smash your windows and beat you up for being transgender. It's bound to skew your view of the world a little.

But yes, it does make me wonder if some of the men she said had been transphobic were. Maybe she just read them that way.

At a guess she probably has encountered a lot of men who were (women also). It's quite likely that some of the men she's been interested in and who maybe were initially interested in her (she looked pretty good a few years ago) found that their interest died when they realised she was transgender.

But also quite possible that some men who weren't interested, just weren't interested

[Pincho Paxton]

Ron has said great thing about Lauren on BOTS, so that ends the debate in this thread.

[DanaC]

I really liked the way he was so positive about all the youngsters too. This board is full of people outraged by the careers, life style choices, behaviour or even accents of the younger housemates. People holding them up as examples of all that's wrong abou Britain or America. Ron's been completely non judgemental about them.