[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zee

Maybe in the future... but not right now. I can see Dezzy's point about not having to worry about him being released in the future; but I think they'd have rather see him sentenced, spend a good few years in jail and then if he'd killed himself they might have been mad but at least he suffered for a while and had time to think about what he did... this is just a cop out and they'll be feeling cheated.

He got over 1000 years in his sentence though so that was never going to happen

[Z]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He got over 1000 years in his sentence though so that was never going to happen

That's 850 on good behaviour Niamh though...

[Livia]

I agree with Dezzy and Lee. He's not infesting this planet anymore, and I like to think that's how the victims will see it. It's in cases like this I really hope there's a hell and that he's in it, wishing he was back in prison.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Zee

That's 850 on good behaviour Niamh though...

well he would've been 2863's problem then

[Z]

Originally Posted by Livia

I agree with Dezzy and Lee. He's not infesting this planet anymore, and I like to think that's how the victims will see it. It's in cases like this I really hope there's a hell and that he's in it, wishing he was back in prison.

I hope that's how they come to see it in time, and I'm sure they will, but I just think that right now, they're going to be devastated that justice hasn't been served... the justice system has failed them - how was he left alone long enough to have the resources and time to commit suicide? The one who testified in court desperately wanted him to be imprisoned for the rest of his natural life so he could begin to understand how they felt... and he never will now...

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Livia

I agree with Dezzy and Lee. He's not infesting this planet anymore, and I like to think that's how the victims will see it. It's in cases like this I really hope there's a hell and that he's in it, wishing he was back in prison.

Yeah as usual when it comes to serious debates that turn to punitive issues Dezzy stands out as the more pragmatic of the bunch.

He's dead. Dead.

[Kizzy]

What place does pragmatics have in emotive issues?

[Indy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What place does pragmatics have in emotive issues?

It's a pointless argument. He got life in prison, people were already screaming that he deserved lethal injection. If he'd gotten death, they would've been screaming that he deserved life in prison so he'd suffer longer. He's dead now, and people are screaming that it's not good enough. No legal punishment on earth would ever have been good enough, so not much point in pretending people would suddenly have been happier if he'd been wasting away in prison for the next however many years until someone shanked him on his way to the showers.

[thesheriff443]

he should of got the death sentence in the first place.
the fact that some on here think its an injustice just because he did it him self boggles the mind!.
many more should kill them self's.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Indy

It's a pointless argument. He got life in prison, people were already screaming that he deserved lethal injection. If he'd gotten death, they would've been screaming that he deserved life in prison so he'd suffer longer. He's dead now, and people are screaming that it's not good enough. No legal punishment on earth would ever have been good enough, so not much point in pretending people would suddenly have been happier if he'd been wasting away in prison for the next however many years until someone shanked him on his way to the showers.

I agree, it's one of those crimes where no punishment would be good enough, 1,000 years in prison or death by a thousand cuts.

His actions were almost beyond belief and to commit these crimes on a daily basis for over 10 years simply takes ones breath away.

Maybe we (society) are upset with ourselves on some level that we couldn't have interrupted his evil game years before, maybe we have a collective guilty conscience ??

Either way I wish this piece of scum could have served some meaningful jail time just so he could get a small taste of the horror he inflicted on these young innocent girls....!!!

[Z]

I disagree, I think locking him up for life would have been good enough - it's what he did to those women for 10 years. I'm sure that there would have come a time, years down the line, where the news of his sudden suicide would perhaps have been a weight lifted off their shoulders (and perhaps that is how they feel now) - but right now I don't think that'll be how they feel at all... they'll feel cheated, that he got to quit, when they spent so long fighting to see a new day. It was the same for Natascha Kampusch; her kidnapper killed himself after she escaped and she was devastated by the news.

[Z]

It's like when Harold Shipman committed suicide - yes the man is gone and has ceased to exist but what consolation is that for the hundreds, or thousands, even, of people whose lives he affected? There's not much justice in that.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zee

It's like when Harold Shipman committed suicide - yes the man is gone and has ceased to exist but what consolation is that for the hundreds, or thousands, even, of people whose lives he affected? There's not much justice in that.

Yes I remember the anger felt that he was allowed to take death over his punishment, as did Fred West he didn't even stand trial.

[BBfanUSA]

Originally Posted by Zee

I disagree, I think locking him up for life would have been good enough - it's what he did to those women for 10 years. I'm sure that there would have come a time, years down the line, where the news of his sudden suicide would perhaps have been a weight lifted off their shoulders (and perhaps that is how they feel now) - but right now I don't think that'll be how they feel at all... they'll feel cheated, that he got to quit, when they spent so long fighting to see a new day. It was the same for Natascha Kampusch; her kidnapper killed himself after she escaped and she was devastated by the news.

He was locked up for life (For killing an unborn baby and another woman on top of all the other things) the 1000 years was for a slew of rape charges and kidnapping